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re: Your occasional reminder that global warming is real,
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:49 pm to olddawg26
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:49 pm to olddawg26
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These aren't part of the theory. They are estimates and assumptions. They can be wrong a million times but if the theory is still right, which it is and is holding, then we should at least pay attention.
Who's not paying attention. The basis of the OP is that anyone that doubts the left's claim of GW is a science denier. Well, only an idiot would consider that black and white.
Is our climate changing? Sure. Is it all due to man made global warming? Absolutely not. Does man impact climate? Of course. I think the argument is to the amount of impact man has on our climate. Don't think too many here deny that man doesn't impact the earth. Most of us just don't think it's as dire as the left paints it. Most also believe that the Earth is able to adapt to any species inhabiting it. And most believe that we should be good stewards of the Earth, regardless of what study is put out there.
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:51 pm to wickowick
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Like exiting an ice age?
Yep. There are many things that effect the climate over time. Ocean currents and atmospheric composition are two of the biggest contributors. If either one changes more rapidly than at any point in history, you can expect the climate to react more quickly than at any point in history.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:55 pm to BugAC
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Is our climate changing? Sure. Is it all due to man made global warming? Absolutely not. Does man impact climate? Of course. I think the argument is to the amount of impact man has on our climate. Don't think too many here deny that man doesn't impact the earth. Most of us just don't think it's as dire as the left paints it. Most also believe that the Earth is able to adapt to any species inhabiting it. And most believe that we should be good stewards of the Earth, regardless of what study is put out there.
Well this is extremely rational. What about the multiple posters who jump on these threads saying "so what if its real?" or "I can't wait to burn more tires to speed up this bullshite"? I think you're being incredibly generous of the mentality of this board and immediate rejection of any sort of rationality when it comes to this subject. It's an immediate AL GORE SAID BLAH BLAH and then shut down any conversation.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:06 pm to LSURussian
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Well, heck, if we're posting graphs of global temperatures I'll add mine, too.....
Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. 
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:07 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:09 pm to BugAC
quote:Indeed.
All of those peaks and valleys. It's as if weather is cyclical.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:09 pm to olddawg26
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What about the multiple posters who jump on these threads saying "so what if its real?" or "I can't wait to burn more tires to speed up this bullshite"?
Those people are purposefully messing with you. It's not that hard to see.
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I think you're being incredibly generous of the mentality of this board and immediate rejection of any sort of rationality when it comes to this subject.
I'm not above stating that when thread #10,000 is posted on here like the OP posted, stating that the weather in S. louisiana for the past week is definitive proof of global warming. When being presented with stupidity, you can either argue until your blue in the face, in front of an idiot that will never learn, or you just deliberately mess with them so that they keep going off that cliff. The latter is way more entertaining.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:12 pm to BugAC
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Most of us just don't think it's as dire as the left paints it. Most also believe that the Earth is able to adapt to any species inhabiting it.
I'd actually be more concerned about the acidification of the oceans from CO2 before I worry about warming. If creatures can't develop shells, entire food chains gets disrupted. species go extinct. etc
Can you imagine Louisiana without shrimp and crabs? The horror!!!!
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:13 pm to BobBoucher
I bet you're a hoot to hang out with IRL.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:15 pm to redneck hippie
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They trust common sense more than scientists that have dedicated their lives to obtaining research grants purely in the interest of career self-preservation
Fify clown.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:16 pm to Errerrerrwere
My wife thinks so. That says something I guess.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:17 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
I don't deny that the climate is changing. I just believe that we overestimate our contribution to it, as well as being able to do anything to stop it. We can do stuff on a local level- that's been proven with the cleaning of lakes, replanting forests, etc. but on a global scale, earth is gonna do what Earth is gonna do.
I do my part by eating as many cows as possible to keep them from farting.
I do my part by eating as many cows as possible to keep them from farting.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:18 pm to BobBoucher
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I'd actually be more concerned about the acidification of the oceans from CO2 before I worry about warming. If creatures can't develop shells, entire food chains gets disrupted. species go extinct. etc
Can you imagine Louisiana without shrimp and crabs? The horror!!!!
This is the kind of stuff i was referring to when i mentioned the OP's failed attempts at sensationalism.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:32 pm to BugAC
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This is the kind of stuff i was referring to when i mentioned the OP's failed attempts at sensationalism.
Are you suggesting ocean acidification is more sensational than climate change? It's much easier to predict scientifically, and it's happened before.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:32 pm to BugAC
Act like you been there before then! Acting like an Aggie
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:37 pm to Wtodd
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I'm burning fossil fuels & eating beef as fast as I fricking can!!!
The greenies would be really pissed to watch my family swimming all winter in our 42000 gallon heated pool.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:40 pm to Tigerdev
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This is coming from an American actually. That's your problem.
My problem? If you can't see you're one of the worst offenders, your bias is beyond reproach from self-introspect.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:48 pm to Iosh
quote:The system is not at equilibrium. That was the point. So if CO2 is the major force driving temp upwards, thermal oceanic outgassing will result, and atmospheric concentration must increase.
Henry's law assumes that a system is at equilibrium. If the temperature is raised and all else stays equal, then we would see considerable outgassing. But currently, the system is not at equilibrium, because the temperature is rising AND we're continuing to add more CO2 to the atmosphere.
The importance of equilibrium is anthropogenic CO2 will be terrestrially distributed in accordance, i.e., seawater acidification. But again, variance in ice core CO2 over time within a temperature range allows direct observation of the atmospheric component in a complex biosphere.
It simply is not a single variable equation. The challenge is biospheric complexity. Along with related albedo, solar variance, time horizon, etc, that complexity accounts for the repeated predictive modeling errors we've seen.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:53 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
The Silesian and Pre-Cambrian epochs call bullshite on your theory.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:55 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Not on net, because the outgassing of CO2 FROM the oceans driven by temperature will be dominated by the direct addition TO the oceans from increased partial pressure.
So if CO2 is the major force driving temp upwards, thermal oceanic outgassing will result,
We know this is the case because that's what the actual data show. CO2 concentration is increasing in both the atmosphere AND the ocean.
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