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John McCain and Gay Lindsey Graham - Have they ever opposed a Dem like this?

Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:22 pm
They have both opposed and criticized and fought Donald Trump. Have they ever had this much energy fighting against a Democrat?

What does that tell you?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:25 pm to
Well he's the least qualified person ever to be elected, so there's that.
Posted by blight
central
Member since Jul 2012
1010 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:26 pm to
just a hair more qualified than a community organizer i'd say
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:27 pm to
Obama was a senator. If you line up every President, his resume is right in the middle. Trump's is dead last.
Posted by TigerMikeAtl
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
1974 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:28 pm to
I dunno...George Washington and several founding fathers were rather inexperienced in politics when they became president...that seemed to work out well.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:30 pm to
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George Washington
Commander-in-Chief before being elected President.
quote:

several founding fathers were rather inexperienced in politics when they became president
Name one.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55520 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:32 pm to
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If you line up every President, his resume is right in the middle.


Besides Trump (giving you that assumption for the sake of the question), who had a worse resume than Obama?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:36 pm to
Off the top of my head: Taylor, Fillmore, Teddy (many different positions but less time in government than Obama), Grant, Eisenhower (though I'd call "Supreme Allied Commander" quite a gig), W.

Everyone, feel free to disagree and provide facts supporting your opinions.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:45 pm to
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Obama was a senator. If you line up every President, his resume is right in the middle. Trump's is dead last.


Do you really want to compare resumes of President Pigment and Emperor MAGA?

Had BHO not been aided by his pigment, he would never have been considered for or elected President.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:46 pm to
Obama had been in government for 11 years (7 in the Senate) when he was inaugurated. Your identity politics are out of place here.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:52 pm to
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(7 in the Senate)
I assume you mean state Senate? He was sworn in as a U.S. Senator in January 2005. He was elected President in November 2008.
ETA: Inagurated January 2009 - four years after being sworn in to the Senate.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:52 pm to
Look, it all comes down to ego. They are pissed that they made a career of being a politician and we're both rejected in their bids for the office they always aspired to. They went through the "proper" party channels and feel entitled because they did it the traditional "party way." It burns guys like them to the core when a non politician threatens their status and power.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23296 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 2:57 pm to
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(7 in the Senate


Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about.

He was a midterm senator who essentially started campaigning as soon as he was elected.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29716 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:06 pm to
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Obama was a senator.
For less than 4 years dipshit.

Trump has been a successful businessman for decades. It's not even close.

If you think a community organizer/politician is better qualified to be president than a billionaire businessman, you're what's wrong with this country.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24973 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:12 pm to
Both are scum.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29716 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:15 pm to
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If you line up every President, his resume is right in the middle
You are so full of shite.

Obama was a fricking state senator for 7 years and US senator for less than 4. He's one of the least qualified ever, and it shows.

I'll take Trump's business experience over political hacks any day.

Melt bitch. MAGA
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:45 pm to
Either/or. 11 > 0.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:45 pm to
Tell me more about those inexperienced FF's who became President.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26998 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:36 pm to
There are a lot of idiots in the senate and the house. Being liked by a dumb constituency does not make you qualified to be president.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 4:42 pm to
Regardless of that, and regardless of the possibility of Trump being a great President, Trump still is the least qualified President of all time.

If you voted for Trump, you don't get to call another President unqualified, ever.
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