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Will Kasich Sign it?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:28 pm
or will he cuck out?
Yes this bill will be challenged in court, but with a new conservative justice there is a good chance that this will send abortion issues back to the states and will restrict late term abortions.
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Yes this bill will be challenged in court, but with a new conservative justice there is a good chance that this will send abortion issues back to the states and will restrict late term abortions.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:34 pm to TigersHuskers
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but with a new conservative justice there is a good chance that this will send abortion issues back to the states and will restrict late term abortions.
No it won't. It will be struck down if it gets to SCOTUS. Trump is replacing a justice that was highly conservative with another highly conservative nominee. It's just going to maintain the same status quo that has struck these types of laws down. Until Kennedy, Ginsburg, or Breyer are replaced the Court's stances on current issues are going to remain the same as they have been.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:34 pm to TigersHuskers
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restrict late term abortions.
6 weeks in is not a late term abortion
also this law does not make an exception for rape victims - so frick this law.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:36 pm to jcole4lsu
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also this law does not make an exception for rape victims
How is this even a thing?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:06 pm to TigersHuskers
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or will he cuck out?
In this case he better.
It's a terrible law and 6 weeks is not a late term abortion and this doesn't even provide a rape exception so frick that.
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with a new conservative justice there is a good chance that this will send abortion issues back to the states and will restrict late term abortions.
We had a conservative supreme court for decades without end and Roe v Wade is still standing strong as ever.
It will never ever be touched again.
Abortion is here to stay and thank goodness because we would be so fricked without it.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:51 pm to Sentrius
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Abortion is here to stay and thank goodness because we would be so fricked without it.
How bout a little personal responsibility? Cause we would be so fricked without it. No child deserves to be legally murdered. Not even a child of rape, he or she never asked to be brought into it.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:54 pm to Thunder
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Not even a child of rape
I would say you can't be serious, but then again I know you are.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:58 pm to Thunder
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How bout a little personal responsibility? Cause we would be so fricked without it. No child deserves to be legally murdered.
How about allowing people to be in control of what happens to their own body? I'm guessing you aren't a woman.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:00 pm to cameronml
qoute How about allowing people to be in control of what happens to their own body
So women cant control when they get pregnant?
So women cant control when they get pregnant?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:05 pm to golfntiger32
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So women cant control when they get pregnant?
Not if they're raped, which is what the poster he responded to was advocating (banning pregnancy as a result of rape from being aborted)
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:18 pm to cameronml
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How about allowing people to be in control of what happens to their own body?
People can have control of their body, but pregnant women have someone else's body inside them, and they shouldn't be able to voluntarily kill that person that is in their body. Taking an innocent life is still taking an innocent life, no matter where that life resides. If it has a heartbeat, then it has life. And that human life has every right to live as any other human life.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:21 pm to Bamatab
less than 2% of all abortions are form rape/incest/HoM...over half are on people who have already had one in the past.. people who use it as a convenience... so lets justify the other 998,000 abortions per year while you wait of a law that YOU like better....
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:23 pm to cameronml
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How about allowing people to be in control of what happens to their own body? I'm guessing you aren't a woman.
I'm guessing you are a woman, judging by the lack of clear thinking.
Does a pregnant woman have two hearts? Two brains? Twenty fingers and toes?
Daft.
As far as a "child of rape", what does the method of conception have to do with it? If it's wrong to kill a developing human being, it's wrong. Doesn't matter how it came to be.
Does destroying the baby erase the pain of the rape? Of course not.
Is destroying the baby even a net positive for the mother? Who knows.
We know it's the intentional killing of a human being.
And let's not kid ourselves and act like there are a ton of babies out there being conceived by actual rapes.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:29 pm to uway
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As far as a "child of rape", what does the method of conception have to do with it? If it's wrong to kill a developing human being, it's wrong. Doesn't matter how it came to be. Does destroying the baby erase the pain of the rape? Of course not. Is destroying the baby even a net positive for the mother? Who knows. We know it's the intentional killing of a human being.
Exactly. And another point is the fact that people that use this argument (whether they realize they are doing it or not) are also advocating executing the baby for the horrible crime that the rapist committed. Why should anyone other than the rapist pay for the crime?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:30 pm to uway
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We know it's the intentional killing of a human being.
Debatable. Obviously the law and SCOTUS disagree with you.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:32 pm to Bamatab
qoute Not if they're raped, which is what the poster he responded to was advocating (banning pregnancy as a result of rape from being aborted)
So approx 32,000 pregnancies a year are a result of rape. There were 665,000 abortions performed in 2013. That was 200 abortions for every 1000 live births. So it would seem that abortions due to rape make up about 5% of abortions. What about the other 633,000. The USA had 403,000 dead in WWII just for perspective.
So approx 32,000 pregnancies a year are a result of rape. There were 665,000 abortions performed in 2013. That was 200 abortions for every 1000 live births. So it would seem that abortions due to rape make up about 5% of abortions. What about the other 633,000. The USA had 403,000 dead in WWII just for perspective.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:33 pm to TigersHuskers
That law is deader than a dead baby.
It would cost millions in taxpayer money and it's not going to scotus bc like someone else mentioned, it's not like the court suddenly flipped.
It would cost millions in taxpayer money and it's not going to scotus bc like someone else mentioned, it's not like the court suddenly flipped.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:33 pm to TigernMS12
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Debatable.
Not really. If it has a heartbeat, and is moving on its own, I think that is a pretty compelling proof of life. Just because politicians say something, that doesn't make it true. The law and SCOTUS aren't infallible.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:35 pm to Sentrius
I personally don't agree with having a rape clause. The child didn't choose how they were conceived
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:35 pm to Bamatab
If a soldier kills someone, do they go to jail?
It stops a heartbeat, isn't all life precious and we should punish those who kill!!!
It stops a heartbeat, isn't all life precious and we should punish those who kill!!!
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