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Alleva Legacy: Going cheap and settling on coaches

Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:01 pm
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5181 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:01 pm
Trent Johnson (who was a downgrade to Brady).

CJJ when so many other up and coming coaches were available.

Keeping CJJ when he had #1 pick and didn't come close to NCAA Tournament.

Coach O instead of Fisher or Herman.

Micah Gibbs as hitting coach instead of going after a guy with similar background as Andy.

What's next? Repromoting Ensminger when you can't get Kiffen, Sark, etc as OC?

Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13379 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:08 pm to
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What's next? Repromoting Ensminger when you can't get Kiffen, Sark, etc as OC?


You're joking, but....
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:12 pm to
We know what alleva is all about. No need for alleva to send out anymore emails to the fans because we see right through him to the truth, not what he writes in an email to fans
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103183 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:14 pm to
Alleva is an in competent and negligent dickhead. He has zero understanding of football.or sports. How the hell did he end up with this kind of a job?
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:17 pm to
Oh you better believe Ensminger has a way bigger chance of landing the OC job than you think. If a middle aged woman passes by him and she says she loves Ensminger he will get a hard look.
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
2488 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:31 am to
frick you Joe
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:36 am to
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What's next? Repromoting Ensminger when you can't get Kiffen, Sark, etc as OC?


It would be more than that: Alleva would promote Ensminger as ft coach when O tanks, continue his legacy of cheap hires until he fired as AD.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:26 am to
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Trent Johnson (who was a downgrade to Brady).



He had great credentials. He was just a poor recruiter and a terrible fit.

quote:

Coach O instead of Fisher or Herman.


Fisher nor Herman were not coming. The other candidates were 2nd tier at best.

quote:

Micah Gibbs as hitting coach instead of going after a guy with similar background as Andy.




Pretty sure that Alleva does not interfere in who Mainieri who chooses to hire.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31264 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:24 am to
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What's next? Repromoting Ensminger when you can't get Kiffen, Sark, etc as OC?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81752 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:26 am to
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Coach O instead of Fisher or Herman. Fisher nor Herman were not coming. The other candidates were 2nd tier at best.
Why don't people understand this?
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:27 am to
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Trent Johnson (who was a downgrade to Brady).


bullshite.

On paper, that was a remarkable hire. Johnson had achieved success at multiple programs and seemed to be an up-and-comer.

Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93773 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:27 am to
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You're joking, but....


quote:

Shea Dixon50 minutes agoPremium Post
Ensminger does not want to be the OC. At all. Has zero interest. That's coming from the horse's mouth.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7667 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:28 am to
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Why don't people understand this?



we do understand.

but O was about 15th tier and we didn't interview anyone in tiers 2-14.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Why don't people understand this?


I think we do understand it. A 2nd tier coach or a guy like Fleck would have been an astronomically better hire than someone who has a 10-25 all time record and couldn't get AN INTERVIEW AT ANY OTHER UNIVERSITY. That should be hugely concerning to some of you.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:30 am to
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Kiffen,


Kiffen.

Keeping CJJ was terrible.


I don't feel this way about the football HC selection, though.

Alleva went after Jimbo. Jimbo stayed.

Alleva went after Herman. Herman preferred UT.

Alleva went with the next best choice.

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62192 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:31 am to
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Why don't people understand this?





A good AD could have made Herman and offer he couldn't refuse. The fact is that after 5 weeks of wanting to hire Orgeron, LSU lost to Florida and only then did Alleva decide that he had to make the hire from outside. After LSU looked good against A&M, then Orgeron wowed Alleva with the binder, Alleva really didn't want Herman so he was able to run away at the first sign of Texas entering the fold.

Herman is not dumb, he knows that Alleva never got serious about him until the 4-5 days prior to the last game of the year. Had Alleva been working on him all along he perhaps could have been convinced on how LSU is a better job for him than Texas.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5064 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:33 am to
Do you know what our recruiting class would look like right now with Fleck? He would get laughed out of every BR, River Parish, Nola living room with that cheesy Row the Boat , crowd surfing act
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

we do understand.


No you don't. Alleva's first and second choice were most everyones first and second choice. They chose to stay or go somewhere else and Alleva couldn't do a darn thing about that.

So you freaking idiots keep harping on Alleva not hiring two guys we had no chance of getting.

so Alleva hires his third choice. You think it would be better to hire someone for more money. Alleva doesn't agree. I don't agree either.

Get over it! I am going to enjoy watching LSU success then next few years and enjoy almost as much listing to you and those like you complain the entire time as success is forced down your throat!
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:38 am to
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A good AD could have made Herman and offer he couldn't refuse.


You know not of what you speak. You think LSU boosters have more money than Texas! This is so dumb it isn't even laughable.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:42 am to
I'm really not sure recruiting is something you want to bring up in O's defense at the moment.
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