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If missing a big hire this time ends up resulting in Aranda as HC

Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:15 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:15 pm
Down the line, it might actually end up palatable.

I worry about how we keep him, but, I think he's got a strong future.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:17 pm to
he's never been a HC before so theres that....
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:17 pm to
There is little chance if O goes down in flames that there will be a stomach to promote from within again.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:18 pm to
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he's never been a HC before so theres that....


Neither was Jimbo so there's that....
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:19 pm to
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he's never been a HC before so theres that...

Hence my use is the word "may".

It certainly isn't risk free
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:20 pm to
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There is little chance if O goes down in flames that there will be a stomach to promote from within again.


If O goes down in flames then at least we won't have to worry about Alleva fricking up another hire.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:20 pm to
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There is little chance if O goes down in flames that there will be a stomach to promote from within again

A legit concern.

Here's hoping that doesn't end up the cause.

I mean. I strongly feel the O hiring was awful.

But. It isn't certain he will fail
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25566 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:36 pm to
Can you link some proof he has desires to be a CFB HC?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:38 pm to
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Down the line, it might actually end up palatable.

I worry about how we keep him, but, I think he's got a strong future.


Odds of that are way less likely than CEO being a good HC for LSU.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Can you link some proof he has desires to be a CFB HC?
It's a not unreasonable assumption. I mean damn. That's just being argumentative.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66858 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:43 pm to
He just basically ran the program for Bowden.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9060 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:46 pm to
Can you post a link where he says he doesn't?
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5713 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:49 pm to
I think Aranda has his sights set on the NFL. JMO.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:22 pm to
Agree and there is a reason he is Associate HC
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9674 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:27 pm to
You want LSU to suck for 3 years so Arranda can be HC? You suck as a person.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59086 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Agree and there is a reason he is Associate HC


Has he signed?
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:56 pm to
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he's never been a HC before so theres that....


I'd prefer one of the nation's top coordinators as head coach, than someone who went 10-27 at Ole Miss.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:01 pm to
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You want LSU to suck for 3 years so Arranda can be HC? You suck as a person
Link?

Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:07 pm to
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If O goes down in flames then at least we won't have to worry about Alleva fricking up another hire.


How exactly did Alleva frick up another hire, by not getting in a bidding war with Herman’s dream school for an unproven head coach that immediately after receiving a preliminary offer from LSU instructed his agent to betray Alleva by leaking the terms of the deal to the Texas boosters? Yeah right, give me a break.

Alleva was exactly right not to let Herman pump up his annual income. In all probability, Herman will end up being the next Charlie Strong at worst, or at best the next Kevin Sumlin. There is no way that Alleva should have paid Herman Saban like money and taken a massive gamble on an unproven head coach that again at best will be another Kevin Sumlin or at worst the next Charlie Strong. Then for sure, he would have lost his job.

Meanwhile, despite a massive offer to Jimbo Fisher, he was not coming to LSU under any circumstances, because he is apparently afraid to coach in the SEC and to face Saban every year.

In addition, Mike Gundy is never going to leave Oklahoma State, because that’s where he went to school and it is his dream job in his own home state. Not to mention, that while his offenses for the most part have been pretty much descent, his defenses for the most part have mostly stunk.

Meanwhile, Larry Fedora and P. J. Fleck aren’t any better candidates than coach O and neither of them know anything about LSU or our state in any event.

Hence, after Jimbo Fisher refused to accept the job, as far as anyone with common sense is concerned, the search, for all intents and purposes, was over, as hiring coach O was the obvious logical choice.

Furthermore, the deal coach O offered Alleva is too good to pass up, as there is no buyout clause. Plus, he is going to coach for significantly less money that coach Miles. Therefore, if after three years he pulls a Charlie Strong on us, we can fire him and get someone else without having to worry about paying a buyout. Hence, coach O was the perfect hire given the current situation.

Not to mention, that Coach O only loss to Alabama by 10 points, and that was probably the best he could have done given the antiquated Miles’ offense he was forced to run. In addition, LSU’s offensive line only has one true tackle on it and he was playing center, because Miles only cared about running the ball. Thus, without athletic tackles on the offensive line to pass block the rush from the outside, it was impossible for LSU to stop Alabama’s speed rush with guards playing tackle. Meanwhile, who else held Alabama to just 10 points, nobody?

On the Florida loss, it was a fluke loss. If we played Florida 10 weeks in a row, we’d win 9 out of the 10 games, as we are clearly quite a bit better than Florida. The only mistake Coach O made was allowing Fournette to play while injured to give him a shot to score one more touchdown. The other mistakes are on the players, as they just didn’t make plays when they needed too. Nonetheless, Florida didn’t actually win that game, LSU gave it to them.

Meanwhile, coach O won the other five games he played. There was no way an interim head coach was going to beat Saban with Miles' antiquated offense, and even though we barely loss to Florida, it was just one of those fluke games where everything that can possibly go wrong went wrong and went wrong at the absolute worst of times.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:20 pm to
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I'd prefer one of the nation's top coordinators as head coach, than someone who went 10-27 at Ole Miss.


Irrelevant, the only thing relevant about coach O’s 10-27 record at Ole Miss is if he had continued to make the same stupid mistakes while at both USC and LSU, and he clearly didn’t make the same mistakes, because like most people, with the exception of Les Miles, coach O is able to learn from his own idiotic mistakes, and that is a very good trait for a head coach to have.
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