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re: For those bashing Briles

Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:19 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56582 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:19 am to
Are you saying Briles should go to Liberty? Or are you equating LSU ti Liberty?


Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:21 am to
The only place Briles' name is being thrown around is on this board. He will not be hired by LSU in any capacity.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56582 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:27 am to
I can't imagine anyone wanting that slimy guy around LSU

I never imagined even 1 person would support his hire
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:18 am to
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If LSU fans haven't figured out by now that the media will criticize us no matter what we do, then I don't know what to tell them or people like you who think it matters. Think back just a couple weeks and even to thanksgiving night when mark may ripped us bc texas leaked info about Herman and how we were trash bc we weren't gonna give O a chance, blah blah. The same ones begging for him to get a chance are now laughing at us at every opportunity bc we hired the Cajun who sucked at ole miss. Funny how the narrative changes isn't it? Yea forgive me, but frick the media and frick other fan bases. We have a right to expect a great football program too. We need to bring in the best coaches out there and I don't give a rats arse what the media or any alabama fan thinks about it. You don't care about our program so your opinion means shite


All day long. If Briles was so involved in Gang Rape cover up. HE WOULD BE IN JAIL. Common sense.

It's ok for bama to rehab coaches with checkered past but not lsu? Bama took heat for saban's lying arse and unethical behavior but winning has glossed that over. The fact you have bama fans scouring lsu boards and putting their two cents on why not to hire briles should tell you everything. He is a guy who could help change the balance.

His recruiting, contacts in texas, to go with his offensive mind, will elevate lsu to be a stronger more dominant program. HE WILL NOT BE THE HEAD COACH. We have a head coach to deal with compliance issues.

I'm not worried about PR, Trump was the biggest PR nightmare in political history. He won. The media is going to make a big deal out of nothing anyway.

For the record, A lot of this he covered up rape stuff is ignorance. Everything I've read on the issue is that he was negligent for turning it over to compliance rather than dealing with it himself. doest that make him negligent? yes. Does that make him as someone who covered up rape? hardly. He turned it over to the people he thought it should be turned over to and trusted them. I don't believe he's a saint, however, I don't believe he's this criminal people, who have no clue what happened, are stating either.

This was a civil matter, not a criminal matter. Therefore, it was about money and about getting ken star who gave Clinton hell for getting a blow job in the oval office. Briles was collateral damage. It's why he still got his 20 million.





Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6880 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:25 am to
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I don't believe he's a saint, however, I don't believe he's this criminal people, who have no clue what happened, are stating either.


Then he shouldn't have a problem getting a HC job. I mean, the way you propose it here, he didn't really do anything "wrong". So, if he is so good, why didn't Alleva look at him for HC? I mean, he is everything Alleva was looking for. Someone with offensive/HC experience.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6469 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:31 am to
So that makes it ok that Briles turns a blind eye to rape?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:49 am to
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Then he shouldn't have a problem getting a HC job. I mean, the way you propose it here, he didn't really do anything "wrong".


I think he will have another h.c. gig in the future. Right now, the administrations don't want to deal with the pr issue.

Butch davis, who turned a blind eye to boosters hiring prostitutes for h.s. aged recruits (statutory rape) to choose Miami is in coaching again and was hired my U.N.C. as well.

If Briles "covered up rape" I'm not defending nor do I want him. However, I deal with the legal world all day long. I know the difference from civil and criminal charges. I know the difference in someone being negligent and someone conspiring to cover something up. Unfortunately, people hear 10% of the spin and jump to a conclusion.

briles wasn't the only party ousted at Baylor, The a.d., The president, the football coach etc. Are all these people criminals? ken Starr has a pretty illustrious career until this black eye. Do people make mistakes? absolutely. He who hasn't cast the first stone, brother. There was a man crucified for acts for doing nothing wrong. So yes, the masses can be wrong.

I believe a duke lacrosse coach got fired for covering up rape. how did that go?
Posted by CL8100
Bayou
Member since Jan 2012
948 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:55 am to
whats wrong with briles coming to lsu as oc or kiffin or apple white, ? tee martin a good name out there for oc at lsu so is tyson helton.? hadnt looked up anything on briles yet. did he not get along with the school president ,? whatever happen to him has not been floating around lately
Posted by drdoom
Member since Nov 2012
142 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:56 am to
So by the logic of some on the board, if rick pitino expressed interest in coaching the LSU basketball team, because of his Louisville mess, he shouldn't be considered?

Anyway, the difference here is that briles would not be the head guy.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:02 am to
You people are so dense I can't believe this. It's not whether he is guilty or not it's what the national perception would be and there isn't one P5 school that will touch him. Come out of your bubble. Is his name on any list or being pushed by any media member for a job? No it is not. LSU will not take the PR hit, they will not risk losing recruits because their mothers think this guy allowed alleged rapist to play football for him.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9359 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:21 am to
So what ?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6880 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:35 am to
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I know the difference in someone being negligent and someone conspiring to cover something up.


Do you honestly believe that the head coach did not know or even hear about 5 of his players maybe doing something nefarious over a 9 month period? I know not all of you LSU fans are this naive. I think he knew and didn't act on it until this girls coach actually brought it up. I believe he knew his players had done something but as long as the girl didn't come forward he wasn't going to do anything about it. I can understand his position to a point, but I also think he could have been more proactive and did a little more investigating on his own and if nothing else, suspended the players for misconduct. It would have a least had the look of him being a little more in control of his players.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51112 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:36 am to
frick it I just want to win
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:40 am to
Just read the replies no not all LSU fans are this blind. 1/2 pushing for Briles are just being sarcastic the other half are just to shortsighted to understand how the media and public perception works. They also can't understand how that would affect recruiting. They also don't pay much attention to whose names are being thrown around for coaching jobs and his in not one of them.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22213 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:51 am to
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LSU would be crucified.


By who? Who the frick cares what the media thinks.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45201 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:55 am to
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By who? Who the frick cares what the media thinks.

Who the frick cares what recruits' parents think too, right?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:59 am to
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L6U fans are so desperate to get a win against Bama that they will hire a dude who covered up multiple gang rapes.


It's really frickin sad.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:02 am to
Tilman Fertitta - UH monster alum who owns all the casinos, hotels and restaurants was asked on the radio in Houston this AM if he would support UH hiring Briles again for the UH HC job. He said that he would consider it and had spoken with Ken Star and some of the major alums at Baylor and while he agrees that it was upgy that it happened on his watch, that there were reasonable questions about how much Briles knew about what went on at Baylor.

Just passing on the info. I'm not pushing Briles.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59288 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:12 am to
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The AD at Baylor who was also terminated amid allegations of covering up inappropriate activities just signed on as AD of Liberty College. That's right, a small christian college in lynchburg, Va.


So?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Do you honestly believe that the head coach did not know or even hear about 5 of his players maybe doing something nefarious over a 9 month period? I know not all of you LSU fans are this naive



No, I think that is why he was deemed negligent. he should have known or did more. He lost his Job as a result. That is still a far cry from the people saying he covered up gang rape, is it not?

I think what he did wrong was turn it over to a different department, compliance, to review, investigate, and make that decision. It appears he felt that was not his department/responsibility. It's also why the president and the A.D. got fired. Not because solely of art briles but by the entire department messing up. compliance, athletic, etc.

From what I understand, he suspended the only active player on the team. The others were no longer on the team. Maybe I'm wrong, however, that's what I read in the article. He asked the girls coach if she wanted to go to the police, the coach said she did not.

Like I said, I don't believe he's a saint. however, I don't think he's the monster people are portraying either. He's a guy that didn't handle the situation well/made a mistake. I don't think he's a guy that knew of such acts and conspired to try and suppress them. If he was, then he would be in Jail. Simple as that.

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