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Why did our "top 3" include 2 we couldn't afford?

Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:48 pm
Posted by a want
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:48 pm
Seriously?

It's no shock Herman would get a $5 mil offer. Kirby Smart makes almost $4 mil per year. Charlie Strong made $5 mil per year at UT. Hell, Dereck Mason made $2.5 mil at Vandy.

So why were our only 2 choices (outside the backup plan) beyond our budget?
Posted by jonboy
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:49 pm to
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Why did our "top 3" include 2 we couldn't afford?


Couldn't afford or weren't willing to pay for? Big difference.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:49 pm to
You make those guys say no
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:50 pm to
The better question is why LSU can't pay O like 200k/year if this is truly his dream job.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:52 pm to
We went cheap. Just like its 1990 again. Alleva didn't want to overpay but you have to overpay to get a guy to switch schools or give up his dream job. Alleva went into this thinking he could play hard ball because he had o locked up as his backup plan. When the other parties didnt balk he ran home and made the easy hire. What a joke.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:53 pm to
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Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:05 pm to
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Why did our "top 3" include 2 we couldn't afford?


It's not about "affording" them, it's about them wanting to be here. We have egos to appease. We're not going to come after you, you must sell us on why we should pay you. Only O did that, thankfully the price was cheap. LSU is not a culture of excellence but a culture of egos, and as long as we're willing to sell power for money, that will continue.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:13 pm to
cuz we never intended on paying
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:15 pm to
Not quite sure if alleva understands the market price for coaches right now.

He has no intentions of having LSU in the elite tier of college athletics. Football and men's/women's basketball are trending in the completely wrong direction of mediocrity.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:20 pm to
I think it was more of a case of wouldn't instead of couldn't.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:27 am to
If it is true that Jimbo wanted ten years guaranteed then I'm proud of Alleva for telling Jimbo and Sexton to go eat a big pile of dung. That is frickin insane greed man. I'm also glad Alleva told Herman that he wasn't going to hold LSU hostage as a bargaining chip against Texas. I really don't understand all this "woe is us" rhetoric coming from LSU fans. Y'all will always be a contender and a force to be reckoned with. And if in a few years y'all decide to part ways with Coach O, he will leave yall stocked with elite talent.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 6:28 am
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:54 am to
Orgeron was always the top choice and really the only choice. Herman and Fisher were only window dressing to make us think the administration was doing its due diligence. There was no serious coaching search.

TD helped fuel the illusion of a serious search with talks going on but it was all literally a smoke screen. There was no inside information being leaked, etc. Probably the TD admins themselves either playing along or simply generating clicks.

Our administration was never going to spend the money needed to secure a top flight coach. Ed Orgeron might become a legend at LSU and then again, we might be searching for a new HC in 2019.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:58 am to
I think there is a serious question about whether Herman deserves $5 mil. What, exactly, has he done to warrant that kind of salary?
Posted by magicman0001
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:10 am to
It's not that we couldn't afford it. Alleva just didn't want to get into a bidding war for an unproven coach. He also didn't want to give stadium rights and naming rights to our next bengal tiger for Jimbo Fisher (thank God)

This was a proactive move. LSU can now monitor the young coaches with potential to see who can build the best resume's over the next 2-4 years IF O fails without any financial repercussions. Not to mention we'll have a stocked roster full of talent.

Posted by Port Royal
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:14 am to
Because there was only 1 candidate.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:17 am to
quote:

So why were our only 2 choices (outside the backup plan) beyond our budget?




LSU should not have a budget during the hiring process.

Schools that aren't elite have a budget.

Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:24 am to
quote:

Why did our "top 3" include 2 we couldn't afford?



Because the current LSU administration is committed to "okay", not excellence.

But if they tip their hand on that to the fanbase too soon, the pitchforks and torches will start coming out.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:55 am to
quote:

It's no shock Herman would get a $5 mil offer. Kirby Smart makes almost $4 mil per year. Charlie Strong made $5 mil per year at UT. Hell, Dereck Mason made $2.5 mil at Vandy.


I think LSU would have paid 5M for Herman.

Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:46 am to
Because O was always the plan
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