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Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:15 pm
We know the whole e-mail scandal probably cost her a lot of votes, but she did plenty of other things that could have cost her the election.
Is there any single thing or strategy (other than the e-mail server) that if she could do it over, would have resulted in her winning?
For examples:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
2.) If she hadn't fainted in public, putting her health in question.
3.) If she hadn't legitimized BLM when police officers were getting killed by equating the two sides
4.) If she hadn't continuously emphasized, "a pathway to citizenship in the first 100 days" as the only detail she ever talked about with regard to her "comprehensive" immigration reform plan.
I think that #4 played a huge role in her loss. I think the Democrat strategy of carving out constituency groups in a divide and conquer strategy is unraveling, and their strategy of growing their hispanic voting bloc via illegal immigration has turned the blue collar working class against her, because they feel that their jobs are going to go to hispanics who will do them for less money. The Democrats now have to choose between the two, rather than rely on both groups voting for them in overwhelming numbers.
Hillary Clinton did not come out with a border enforcement strategy, other than there would be no wall, and people took that as her implicit approval of open borders.
Is there any single thing or strategy (other than the e-mail server) that if she could do it over, would have resulted in her winning?
For examples:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
2.) If she hadn't fainted in public, putting her health in question.
3.) If she hadn't legitimized BLM when police officers were getting killed by equating the two sides
4.) If she hadn't continuously emphasized, "a pathway to citizenship in the first 100 days" as the only detail she ever talked about with regard to her "comprehensive" immigration reform plan.
I think that #4 played a huge role in her loss. I think the Democrat strategy of carving out constituency groups in a divide and conquer strategy is unraveling, and their strategy of growing their hispanic voting bloc via illegal immigration has turned the blue collar working class against her, because they feel that their jobs are going to go to hispanics who will do them for less money. The Democrats now have to choose between the two, rather than rely on both groups voting for them in overwhelming numbers.
Hillary Clinton did not come out with a border enforcement strategy, other than there would be no wall, and people took that as her implicit approval of open borders.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to Jax-Tiger
I would suggest, never buying into the illusion that she was ever a capable national level politician.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:16 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
This, and essentially taking white blue collar union voters for granted.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
If I were her, Benghazi would be my number one do over but I have a soul so...
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
failed to heed the counsel of WJC and opted to listen to the non-pragmatists
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:18 pm to Jax-Tiger
Shoulda held on to the pussy grabbing video a week longer.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:19 pm to Jax-Tiger
If we are limiting this to the campaign, separating the family from the Clinton Foundation back in 2015.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:22 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:Celebrating her November 8th victory following the final debate on Oct19th. Then taking the next 10 days off until Comey's letter was sent out just as she did in the period leading up to the debates.
Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to Jax-Tiger
it's hard to single out any one thing
but if you could only choose 1, I bet she wishes she had "deplorables" back
at that point it was laughable to even the staunchest democrat every time she claimed the moral high ground with things like "when they go low, we go high" and it goes without saying that insulting voters was really fricking stupid. she wasn't winning any one fake poll enough to insult trump voters.
but if you could only choose 1, I bet she wishes she had "deplorables" back
at that point it was laughable to even the staunchest democrat every time she claimed the moral high ground with things like "when they go low, we go high" and it goes without saying that insulting voters was really fricking stupid. she wasn't winning any one fake poll enough to insult trump voters.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:25 pm to Jax-Tiger
The whole Hillary experience was so unbelievably flawed that you couldn't fix it with just one change.
The closest thing to that would probably be an attempt to tack toward the middle and salvage the rust belt states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. But that would have lowered her turnout of other groups because her coalition in general is hostile toward middle class and lower class white America.
The closest thing to that would probably be an attempt to tack toward the middle and salvage the rust belt states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. But that would have lowered her turnout of other groups because her coalition in general is hostile toward middle class and lower class white America.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:26 pm to Jax-Tiger
#1 will always be.....don't be a shitty human being
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:27 pm to Jax-Tiger
I should add: Tim Kaine. If she selects Bernie as VP, it wouldn't have been close.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:30 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:should've released it during the primaries. republican voters would've moved away from him fearing he'd be toast, and she would've gotten someone like Rubio or cruz that she could steamroll.
Shoulda held on to the pussy grabbing video a week longer.
she wanted him to win thinking he was easy pickings...
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:39 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
Was there any single thing that Hillary Clinton would like to do over?
probably hundreds of things could have swung the election. It was a very close election. Flip a few votes in Michigan/Wisconsin/PA, and boom she wins it.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:43 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:
1.) If she hadn't made the little basket of deplorables comment.
This. I don't think we've had a presidential candidate in recent history refer to people that support their opponent as racist, xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, etc. We've seen surrogates, but not an actual candidate display enough unadulterated contempt and hate for a huge part of the population.
People noticed. Democrats brushed it off and tried to draw false equivalency with Trump's tweet of the day....but middle America heard that. The Trump campaign definitely heard it. It made painting Democrats as coastal elitists who are out of touch with the middle class easy for Trump's campaign.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:44 pm to DelU249
quote:
should've released it during the primaries. republican voters would've moved away from him fearing he'd be toast, and she would've gotten someone like Rubio or cruz that she could steamroll.
she wanted him to win thinking he was easy pickings...
I think this is probably correct.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:44 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
Flip a few votes in Michigan/Wisconsin/PA, and boom she wins it.
Sure. Flip "a few" votes in Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Ohio.....and she had it in the bag.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:45 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
should've released it during the primaries. republican voters would've moved away from him fearing he'd be toast, and she would've gotten someone like Rubio or cruz that she could steamroll.
she wanted him to win thinking he was easy pickings...
I think this is probably correct.
I think she would have lost to rubio, not sure about cruz.
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