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Without the pedo scandal, would penn st be an elite job?

Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21557 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:33 pm
if it wasn't for the scandal, would coaches view psu as an elite destination?

PA is probably a top 10 state for talent, though definitely not top 7. However, they're the only major school close to the elite jersey catholic leagues. They are really the biggest program for the entire northeast and even the DC area.

The stadium is big, huge fan base, etc. seems like you could pull talent just as good as a Michigan could.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12996 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:35 pm to
What constitutes "elite?"

Penn State is a Top 20 job today (the luster had worn off before the scandal). At one point it was a Top 10 job.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35607 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:36 pm to
Yes.

That said frick Penn State.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80459 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:36 pm to
Penn State hasn't really been an "elite" job since Sandusky left.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36480 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:36 pm to
Yeah feel like they've had some success in the past...
Posted by pkloa
Member since Jan 2011
2266 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:37 pm to
Yes. 10 years from now it will hopefully be a tier 1 job again.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36238 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:38 pm to
I don't think it would be. They're in a division with OSU, UM and MSU. Your competing with OSU, VT and WVU for talent too and there isn't near as much in the Northeast as there is in the South.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11728 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:39 pm to
I feel like they should be the third best Big 10 job with a chance to win 9+ every year.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14068 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:43 pm to
it can be again

has to be the right coach to get them there.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51710 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:45 pm to
It can still be elite now, Franklin is just really struggling a lot more than I thought he would. O'Brien would have them in much better shape had he stayed.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
6629 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:47 pm to
If the scandal never came to light, Joe Paterno would still be alive and "coaching" at Happy Valley and Jay Paterno would still be the legacy in waiting.




Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139867 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:52 pm to
Undoubtedly

They have the Northeast to themselves, basically. Have the facilities and tradition. Nike money, as they are part of the original Big 8 of Nike.
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

PA is probably a top 10 state for talent, though definitely not top 7.


You're wrong. In terms of football talent it goes

1.California/Texas/Florida
2.Ohio/Georgia
3.Pennsylvania/Louisiana
4.North and South Carolina/New Jersey
5.Alabama/Virginia/Michigan

Its been this way for decades
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:17 pm to
Penn State cult: "JoePa would still be coaching."
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32490 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:48 pm to
No


Next..
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 6:48 pm to
OP, the answer to your question is an emphatic yes.

But the pedo scandal places a sickening stench around that place forever, imo.
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