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re: Slavery reparations sought in first Black Lives Matter agenda

Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:23 am to
I suppose the Africans could have resisted and engaged in revolution and they could be the United States of Africa right now and be a world leader given the abundance of natural resources at its disposal.

Why didn't it work out that way? Even better, why have things not improved since western nations have been pouring money into that continent for 100 years?
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:23 am to
So when you are ruled by a different country who has a established government and the pulled out and left those countries basically abandoned to be rule by whomever you don't think that will come with issues. Watch the video it states that a lot of the wars that are being fought today in Africa are stemmed from what happen from the European invasion
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3267 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:25 am to
So now that most of Africa is not European colonies they should have got their shite together right? Instead their warlords create child soldiers and cut people to pieces with machetes when they go against their views. Yep, that is really working out well for ya.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12968 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:25 am to
So the European nations should have stayed? They should not have given Africa back to Africans? I'm confused.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124708 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:27 am to
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Because they weren't a united country the separate groups that defended their territories


So they were tribal and too busy fighting one another. Some things never change. See tribal wars today.

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The did not have the means nor the power to fight countries of that power.


And why not? Why was (and is) Africa so vastly far behind in advancement than the rest of the world? There are much deeper questions here. Why were they still throwing spears when Europeans were driving tanks?


quote:

Don't sit here and call Africa a shite hole and say it their fault


The continent of Africa is overwhelmingly, objectively, a shite hole.

Literally. shite runs in the streets. Are you so blind that you can't see that without western assistance Africans would be dying in even greater numbers than they are today?

Western medicine, doctors, technology, food aid. Are these the evils of the white devil you are talking about?

This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:29 am to
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I know. Just as he blames all the problems of Blacks in America on whites, so to does he blame all of Africa's problems on whites. I wonder if he's ever stopped to think what Africa would look like today if no white man had ever trod on African soil? Would modern cities like Lagos in Nigeria or Johannesburg in South Africa even exist in their current form


My problems? What problems? I've never been on gov assistance in my life. My mother is a nurse practitioner, I'm going to college on my own dime. No one in my family lives off welfare or food stamps. I have no problem I think its just ignorance that people what to ignore why thing in this world are a certain way. I'm not being you I'm saying history has suited on this race and these places and its not just from their doing.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:30 am to
do you believe Africa, and Africans in general, would be better off today without European colonialism?
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:30 am to
Because those were the same armys that those Europeans countries created to defend their territory. So when you leave those groups now have the power.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4583 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:30 am to
No point arguing with this dude. He's made up his mind to play the victim card and he will use all kinds of intellectual dishonesty to disregard all these points being posted against his viewpoint.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108815 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:31 am to
See this is exactly what's wrong with black America today. Nobody wants to take personal responsibility. Everyone wants to put the blame on white people and sit back and wait for their entitlements.

You want to better yourselves? Stop blaming everyone else for the problems in the black community. White people aren't riding into black neighborhoods and shooting anybody. White people aren't trashing your schools.

But then again it's easier to place the blame elsewhere and then just sit back and wait for the free shite to come to you instead.
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:32 am to
Who knows? African countries had all the resources to have been one of the most powerful countries it could have turned out better or worse. No one know how they would have used those resources.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124708 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:32 am to
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Who knows? African countries had all the resources to have been one of the most powerful countries it could have turned out better or worse. No one know how they would have used those resources.



Of course we do. We can see it playing out now.

Without the (western) technological know how to tap those resources, they wouldn't have been able to use them.

This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 9:36 am
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:32 am to
I'm not a victim and never have been
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108815 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:33 am to
quote:


When is the last time this has happened?


Typo, fgt... I corrected it to "aren't"
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:34 am to
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African countries had all the resources to have been one of the most powerful countries


which is why they were colonized by a more powerful force/people

quote:

No one know how they would have used those resources.



would they have ever realized they had these resources?
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:34 am to
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things not improved since western nations have been pouring money into that continent for 100 years?



because that didn't happen Europeans countries pulled out less than 50 years ago.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12968 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:35 am to
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y problems? What problems? I've never been on gov assistance in my life. My mother is a nurse practitioner, I'm going to college on my own dime. No one in my family lives off welfare or food stamps. I have no problem I think its just ignorance that people what to ignore why thing in this world are a certain way. I'm not being you I'm saying history has suited on this race and these places and its not just from thei


I have a suggestion for you given your circumstances.

GET HAPPY. Be a proud a American. Be thankful you live here and have these opportunities. Quit bitching about Africa, and reparations, and 150 year old slavery that plainly has no impact on you today. You're living better than 90% of the world and probably 70% of Americans.

Get your degree, get a good job, marry a good woman, raise good kids, and establish a cycle of successful achievement. Getting bogged down in social justice bullshite is only going to hold you back and make you bitter.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64963 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:35 am to
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Don't sit here and call Africa a shite hole and say it their fault then turn around and say Europeanswas just doing what everyone else did even though they are responsible for the state that continent is in now


There's one glaring problem with your argument. Just as Africa was colonized by Europeans, North America was likewise colonized by Europeans. If the process of colonization really did leave the colonized region destitute and backwards for centuries after the end of said colonization as you contend, Then both the United States and Canada should be third-world shitholes like what we see today throughout Africa.

Then there's also the matter of the vast swaths of Africa that while nominally claimed by European powers, never actually were truly colonized by anyone.

If your point is true, that it was European colonization that has retarded African development, then those areas left more or less alone by the Europeans should see thriving peaceful, modern, purely African societies. However, That's not the case either. Why do you think that is?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59630 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:36 am to
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White people aren't riding into black neighborhoods and shooting anybody

Not anybody. Just church goers in South Carolina.

just sayin'
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3267 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:36 am to
So does it piss you off that while you, as a young, black (probably male) in today's America have done everything you are supposed to, and yet there are people that sit on their arse and do nothing and you help provide for them?

Yes?

Then why are you defending them.
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