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What killed mainstream R&B?

Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:32 pm
I'm talking about the 90's where you had acts like Aaliyah, Blackstreet, R. Kelly, Next, Boyz II Men, etc...

It's the one genre, maybe aside from rock, that has completely disappeared from mainstream pop radio stations.

Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:34 pm to
Man the 90's had some great R&B
Posted by Vdrine
Big Bad Baz
Member since Jun 2014
888 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 1:53 pm to
You gots to go hard mayne cant be have'n those bitches an hoes makin you soft keep that shite at a hundred yo.

In other words, gangster/misogynist rap. IMO.
Posted by BLIZZAKE7
BRLA
Member since Apr 2005
6188 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:21 pm to
Culture shifted to music that is much less respectful towards women
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 2:56 pm to
I'm sure that R. Kelly pissing on underaged girls played somewhat of a role.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27018 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:21 pm to
What happened to rap/hip hop?

It has finally been a genre long enough to get old man complaints. "What's this Tyga crap? He ain't NWA."

Rap has turned like metal. Where metal has Cookie Monster vocals, rap has mumbled lyrics that are poorly written.

R&B still has some vocalists. Usher can sing, John legend can sing.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:22 pm to
Earth, Wind and Fire was the last great R&B act.
Posted by haikarate
Member since May 2011
1518 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 5:47 pm to
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Earth, Wind and Fire was the last great R&B act.


this, this - all of this ^
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:54 pm to
It's still out there, but there's more influence from pop and hip hop.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26331 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:56 pm to
So can Jason Derulo and Drake.

Is Pit Bull R&B?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Aaliyah, Blackstreet, R. Kelly, Next, Boyz II Men, etc...





Thats not R and B
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75266 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:04 pm to
What?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19565 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 9:10 pm to
Hip Hop. Lots of classic R&B stations changed formats
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:37 pm to
I miss good ole soul music
Posted by Vdrine
Big Bad Baz
Member since Jun 2014
888 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:53 pm to
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I miss good ole soul music

I found this album on youtube Noora Noor - Soul deep She's the Queen of Norwegian soul. Has a early 70s soul feel to it.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 12:15 am to
quote:

I'm talking about the 90's where you had acts like Aaliyah, Blackstreet, R. Kelly, Next, Boyz II Men, etc...

It's the one genre, maybe aside from rock, that has completely disappeared from mainstream pop radio stations.


Maybe another reason is the rise of edm? It seems as people tastes in beats/production style has taken a complete 180 from the 90s, and nothing sounds like the r&b from 20 years ago.

quote:

Hip Hop. Lots of classic R&B stations changed formats


Ehhh, dont think so. Rap and hip hop was probably bigger in the 90s than it is now. R&B probably benefitted from the popularity of rap, as there were plenty of crossover songs.

This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 12:20 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19565 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 6:19 am to
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Ehhh, dont think so. Rap and hip hop was probably bigger in the 90s than it is now. R&B probably benefitted from the popularity of rap, as there were plenty of crossover songs.


Did you listen to the crossover material? Also, I know many blacks who couldn't and still can't stand rap, even in the crossover stuff. I agree with your statement, I was simply pointing out that over the course of time, hundreds of traditional R&B stations changed their formats to a strictly hip hop format, limiting the amount of exposure for pure R&B.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

hundreds of traditional R&B stations changed their formats to a strictly hip hop format, limiting the amount of exposure for pure R&B.


I think its a chicken or the egg situation.... To me, the change in format was due to the r&b genre dying and the lack of content.

Regarding the crossover songs, absolutely. The songs in which a rapper dropped a verse on an r&b track, or an r&b singer laid a chorus or whole song over a hip hop beat were arguably more popular than straight r&b tracks as those songs would appeal to fans of both genres.
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9119 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:21 pm to
R&B guys thinking they were rappers or just trying to keep up with the trend in the early 2000`s.

Also, women were starting to make themselves more powerful in everyday life and making it a point they didn`t need a man to make it in the world.
So the guys tried to play hard and get gritty which turned an R&B album into a Rap album.
Examples: Jagged Edge,112,Dru Hill.. There are many many more and I`m sure some very good ones, I`m leaving out.





This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12366 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

nothing sounds like the r&b from 20 years ago


That's a 1980's quote.
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