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Saving Private Ryan gripe

Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:45 pm
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:45 pm
At the end when Ryan and his family are in Normandy, his wife reads Miller's name like she doesn't know who he was.
You're telling me Ryan lives his WHOLE life and doesn't tell his family the story of the men who sacrificed themselves for him?
That's the way it plays to me.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:47 pm to
He may have.

His granddaughters are hot though
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16321 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:48 pm to
My grandpa only ever told me the funny stories from the war. Not everybody likes sharing it.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8699 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:49 pm to
I don't have any immediate family who are veterans, but I can imagine many of them keep all that shite internal after returning home. Not wanting to relive any of it.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:49 pm to
Would you want to talk about the men you saw killed in front of your eyes?

War is terrifying. Lots of people can't talk about it.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:55 pm to
My grandfather said he saw some shite in the Pacific that he would take to his grave.

Talking about memories of your friends/countrymen dying brutal deaths right in front of you isn't something most like to do.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 8:59 pm to
A lot of vets do not talk about it. That man lived in doubt of his worth after those men gave their life for him. It's plausible that he never shared the full/real story.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:11 pm to
He's like the anti Chris Kyle
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

That's the way it plays to me.



That's not how it plays with me at all. When she says the line it sounds to me like she is saying, "So this is the man I've heard so much about?"

She seems to be showing reverence and respect when she says it because she knows it was Miller who saved his life.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:18 pm to
Or that the movie is filled with cliche war movie tropes?
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:23 pm to
My grandpa never told me any war stories from the pacific. Not once. And i used to ask him questions all the time. Even for a elementary school project, he only gave simple answers.

After he died, my dad said he never told him much about it either. They went to a special vets and family preview of saving private ryan, and my dad said they sat for 10 mins after the movie so my grandpa could collect himself, and saw there were many others doing the same.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58126 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:30 pm to
Neither of my grandfathers ever really wanted to talk about what they went through in WWII.

My mother's father wouldn't ever get back in the ocean after he got out of the Navy but I never have gotten the story on why. All I know is he was in the Pacific.

My grandfather on my dad's side met my grandmother during the war in Europe when she was a nurse (Italy I think) but that's pretty much all he ever mentioned.
This post was edited on 7/4/16 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:32 pm to
My grandfather never talked about the war until he was dying
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:42 pm to
My dad's dad trained army soldiers to go overseas to Europe.

My mom's dad was in Italy and he told me one story that they had to go through a mine field. Since he had the biggest feet they all followed him through there with no injuries.

A cousin of mine is related to Sledge from The Pacific miniseries and he never wanted to talk about it.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98324 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:57 pm to
Spielberg had P51's saving the day. They weren't used for close air support IRL because their liquid cooled engines were vulnerable to ground fire.
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:37 pm to
Not to ridicule you or anything but this is a stupid gripe.

My grandad was in WW2 and my dad was in Vietnam.

My grandad didn't talk a lot about WW2 when he was alive.

My dad didn't talk at all about Vietnam until a couple of years ago when he was asked to speak at a luncheon and finally put it on paper in the form of a speech.

Different times, better men., better country.
This post was edited on 7/4/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10486 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:50 pm to
I attended my gradfather's funeral a few months ago. He was 95. Landed at Normandy on D-day plus four, and served all the way to the end.

He never talked about any of his experiences. He never attended a single reunion of his regiment. He asked that there be no military presence at his funeral. He kept no mementos. Not a box in the attic. Not his medals. Nothing.

I asked my grandmother why it was this way. She said for two reasons. One was that his company experienced 150% casualties in 10 months. All the guys he trained with and landed with were dead or wounded by the end of the war.

The second was that after being in combat for so long, his unit was eventually rotated to the rear. When the Germans started really surrendering en masse after the Bulge, they turned his unit into an MP/Prisoner escort company. But apparently there was a bit of a scandal when none of the prisoners assigned to them ever made it back behind the lines.
Posted by Scoop
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:50 pm to
Also, survivor guilt is a big thing and Ryan would have had it. That was a big thing my dad carried. He was getting on a helicopter with his two best friends one day and at the last second an officer came up and needed a guy to stay behind and help him with something and randomly picked my dad. The Huey took off and his two best friends came back in bags later that day.

That kind of thing messes you up and you carry it forever. That's how Ryan would have been.
This post was edited on 7/4/16 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 11:20 pm to
Have known and meet many WW II vets over the years. The closer they were to the shite the less they tended to talk. I had an uncle who was at Pearl on Dec 7th and later on Guadalcanal and Guam and never said a word to me about it. I was a WW II nut growing up and never once did he say a thing about his experiences. I did not find out until after he died. I also spent over a decade as a dedicated WW II Re-enactor and our unit did many displays for memorials and vet reunions. I have talked to literally 100's of WW II vets and his not talking to family is very believable. It is really remarkable some of the stories those vets told us. They appreciated us appreciating and honoring them.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 11:23 pm to
My grandfather refuses to speak about Vietnam. That shite effects people.
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