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re: James Cameron announces he's making 4 Avatar Sequels
Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:25 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 4/15/16 at 1:25 am to wildtigercat93
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You cannot compare Star Wars to frickin avatar
Especially not at the box office.
But in all seriousness
quote:is probably correct.
Star Wars as a franchise has probably had the biggest influence on pop culture of any other movie there is.
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:44 am to RLDSC FAN
I still blame this corksooker for the current 3D phase that won't go away.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:56 am to PhilipMarlowe
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I still blame this corksooker for the current 3D phase that won't go away.
It's not really his fault. 3-D is the cause of rising Video on Demand/Streaming and the perceived hit to the box office (it was small, box office has never been bigger over the last 5 years or so). He just championed it to get his technology sold.....which didn't happen because it was too expensive and time consuming.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:14 am to Freauxzen
I really think he missed his window of opportunity. If a good sequel had been made in 2012, when the first movie was still pretty recent, I think people would have been excited about it. But at this point, I just don't see it.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:15 am to StringedInstruments
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He's acting like the world sees Avatar like it sees Star Wars.
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Avatar was a decent movie. It wasn't Star Wars, Indiana Jones, The Matrix, or Lord of the Rings.
I mean, more people paid money to see Avatar than any Star Wars movie. Avatar is the highest-grossing movie in history, by a wide margin.
Avatar $2.788B
Titanic $2.187B
Star Wars: The Force Awakens $2.064B
Jurassic World $1.670B
The Avengers $1.520B
Source: Wikipedia
ETA: SIAP in the past 5 pages.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:18 am to Marciano1
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Cameron used to direct some really good Sci-Fi films but since 1997, he's only focused on Titanic and Avatar. He could have done so much more in that timespan.
In fairness to him, those are the two highest-grossing movies of all time. Not too shabby.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:22 am to Carson123987
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after the sequel bombs theyll kill the franchise
Right, because James Cameron could never make a good sequel. . .
Two of tGOAT sequels already under his belt.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:41 am to Patrick_Bateman
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I mean, more people paid money to see Avatar than any Star Wars movie. Avatar is the highest-grossing movie in history, by a wide margin.
That's true, but it was a "moment" type of movie.
No one cares about it.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:24 am to Fun Bunch
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No one cares about it.
No one cares about anything. . . until they do.
With James Cameron's history, his budget, his team, and the time he's had to plan this, I certainly won't be betting against him.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:30 am to RLDSC FAN
well, ok
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:34 am to Patrick_Bateman
The media will tell the sheep they need to care about this movie. Avatar will never have the cultural impact SW has had and it has done it over two to three generations at this point. People don't care about avatar longer than they are told to.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:56 am to jmarto1
quote:IDGAF.
Avatar will never have the cultural impact SW has had and it has done it over two to three generations at this point. People don't care about avatar longer than they are told to.
Not sure why you're so defensive about Star Wars's "cultural impact." I don't think anyone's trying to compare Avatar to Star Wars, except to say that Avatar made more money. What I'm arguing is that Cameron is a good director, a shrewd marketer, and a blockbuster movie-maker of the highest order. Only an idiot would dispute that. So to dismiss the Avatar sequels because "no one cares" about Avatar is ludicrous.
It may well turn out to be a flop, but if it does, it'll be the first flop James Cameron has ever made.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:58 am to molsusports
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Being a LOTR nerd just because of the books was a thing for decades before Jackson made it accessible for the less socially awkward. Trekkies and Dr Who folks were the science fiction nerds our parents either were, or shunned, in high school.
That's what I'm saying. There's actual substance to LOTR, Star Trek, and Dr. Who. People are still interested in them even when they aren't actively reading it or watching them. People went to see Avatar for the "whoa" factor. Years have rolled by with many more 3D visual spectacles going through the cinemahouses and so a 2nd Avatar would not be a "phenomenon" to everyone, visually, like the 1st one was. That wouldn't be an issue if anyone was still interested in the world that it created, but no one is.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:00 am to Patrick_Bateman
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No one cares about anything. . . until they do.
That's not true. LOTR fans, Star Wars fans, and Trekkies care about those universes all the time.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:06 am to Cooter Davenport
I have not heard a single person mention Avatar in the past 5 years. Not one.
No one cares about Avatar.
No one cares about Avatar.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:07 am to StringedInstruments
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I don't know anyone that cares at all about the Avatar universe. It was a decent movie on its own. I know that I personally have no questions leftover from the film. Just like my childhood was fine not having more insight on the Fern Gully universe.
It has been nearly 7 years since the first one and I haven't heard one person say that they wished he made a sequel. hell, it is tough enough finding someone to admit the first one was pretty amazing on the big screen for an average movie, most people just act like they didn't like it at all.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:10 am to xenythx
Because like your said average storytelling and acting. Doesn't deserve to be the nom1 grossing movie ever. Just like the Florida Georgia line somg,"Cruise", doesn't deserve to be the highest selling country song of all time. Just not worth the claim.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:14 am to TigerMyth36
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I assume he is going to jump from a Dances with Wolves remake to a Dune remake. Just not sure how the natives get powerful enough to stop out worlders from utterly destroying them from space. I guess the blue folk will evolve with Unobtanium Powers and become armies of kwisatz haderach
The problem with that is that Herbert crafted his world masterfully from the very beginning in order to avoid huge plot holes like "why not just nuke it from space?" Cameron did no such thing. So whereas there is a prohibition in the Dune universe against nuclear weapons along with reasonable justification for why it isn't broken, and an Arrakis-specific reason for not using nuclear weapons (the worms make the all-important spice and it's the only planet the worms can live on), there's really no reason Pandora couldn't be leveled from orbit.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 11:16 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:17 am to Cooter Davenport
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there's really no reason Pandora couldn't be leveled from orbit.
Uh, it could destroy the mineral they are after
Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:28 am to Patrick_Bateman
everyone who keeps talking about how much the movies made, you have to realize price of tickets were cheaper when star wars came out. If you could find out how many tickets were sold per movie that would give you a better estimation of what was watched more in theaters.
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