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re: Bigger Oscar Sham: Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan or Annie Hall
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:19 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:19 am to Hugo Stiglitz
12 Years A Slave beating out John Wick in 2014 was another travesty.
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:32 am to Kujo
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what did Titanic offer?
An amazing spectacle of a cinematic feat.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:05 am to H-Town Tiger
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As far as the Oscar's, the biggest "travesties" imo have been in the director and acting categories
Best Director, in particular. It seems they tend to honor solid pros who managed to handle a large staff. Sort of like a de facto Best HR Director Award. 2010 is particularly egregious, as the following directors were nominated: Darren Aronofsy, Ethan Coen, David Fincher, and David Russell. That's a solid case for four of the best directors working right now. And they lost to... Tom Hooper for the King's Speech.
I mean, Hooper isn't a hack or anything, but he's nowhere near those other's class. But they made up for it in 2011 when Woody Allen, Terrence Malick, Alexander Payne, and Martin Scorcese all lost to Michel Hazanavicius for The artist. Admittedly, some of those guys were past their prime and no longer doing their best work, but... come on.
I agree its something to argue about. And I also agree about Brazil and Ran in 1986, but I was limiting myself to fellow nominees, even while admitting the problem is in the nominations themselves.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:28 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I don't get the love for "Annie Hall." That movie was terrible and rough for me to even get through it. Wasn't funny at all.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:32 pm to Bench McElroy
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Blade Runner was the best film of 1982 and it wasn't even nominated for Best Picture because they hate sci-fi films.
I guess that's why the Academy nominated E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial for Best Picture that year.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:46 pm to spslayto
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I don't get the love for "Annie Hall." That movie was terrible and rough for me to even get through it. Wasn't funny at all.
when did you see it? I think it is vert specific for the time it was released and may have not "aged" as well to people born after the 70's. Woody Allen's humor is not for everyone.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:46 pm to spslayto
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
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when did you see it? I think it is vert specific for the time it was released and may have not "aged" as well to people born after the 70's. Woody Allen's humor is not for everyone.
Born in 1977. Saw it recently on Netflix. Has not aged well at all. I feel the same about The Graduate as well. Both products of their time I guess. I didn't like either of those movies. But I'm not knocking anyone who does.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:55 pm to CadesCove
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12 Years A Slave beating out John Wick in 2014 was another travesty.
one of those i watch on cinemax any time it's on. one i watched once and felt really bad about at the end.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:57 pm to Pectus
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An amazing spectacle of a cinematic feat.
and kate winslett tatas
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:05 pm to spslayto
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I don't get the love for "Annie Hall." That movie was terrible and rough for me to even get through it. Wasn't funny at all.
Best part of the whole film is Woody Allen's Sylvia Plath joke.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:21 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Oscar Sham:
Ordinary People over Raging Bull
Dances with Wolves over Goodfellows
The French Connection over The Last Picture Show
and to a lessor extent: The Sting over American Graffiti
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:28 pm to Amadeo
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The French Connection over The Last Picture Show
and to a lessor extent: The Sting over American Graffiti
these are two underrated 'shams.' Both the Sting and French Connection are well made but neither leave a lasting impact imo.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:34 pm to REG861
The biggest star in American Graffiti was Ron Howard. And at that point he was just a former child star. It's a much better film than The Sting, but it's a tough sell against Redford and Newman.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:49 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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It's a much better film than The Sting
I have to disagree and i LOVE American Graffiti, but The Sting is great also.
That's the problem with these threads, someone will disagree with pretty much any winner. The truly egregious ones though are things like Citizen Kane or Raging Bull losing to mostly forgotten movies.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 6:43 pm to REG861
Yeah, Crash was not very good
Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:24 pm to Pectus
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what did Titanic offer?
An amazing spectacle of a cinematic feat.
a ship and water? wow
I can't believe that this wouldn't be a runaway.
Non-teenage girls, how many times have you seen:
Titanic
Good Will Hunting
As Good as it Gets
Any guy who says Titanic over the other two has the first name of Gabriel
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:11 pm to Kujo
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a ship and water? wow
Titanic was a return to old Hollywood. Most of what you saw in that movie wasn't CGI. Most of it was practical effects. That shot of the Titanic when we first flashback to 1912, that wasn't CGI. That was real. The sinking scenes were all done with scale models. Almost none of it was computer generated.
It was an homage to the Hollywood epics of the 1950s and 1960s. The 3-hour costume period pieces that Academy voters just drool over if they are done well.
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Non-teenage girls, how many times have you seen:
Titanic
Good Will Hunting
As Good as it Gets
I have seen Titanic more times than the other two films you listed and my first name is not Gabriel. Also...you left out the other Oscar front runner: L.A. Confidential, which I have watched more times than Good Will Hunting and As Good as it Gets combined.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:30 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Ordinary People over Raging Bull. Have no idea how that happened.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:29 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan
Neither should've won. Life is Beautiful was far superior than both of those films.
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