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re: Bigger Oscar Sham: Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan or Annie Hall
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:11 am to spslayto
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:11 am to spslayto
The Graduate is arguably a Top 10 film...and one of the best examples of a sublime dramedy.
And apart from the dialogue, the setting and the times, it's a brilliantly shot film...with a score that perfectly matches what you are seeing on film.
Only the setting is a product of it's time.
That same youth angst after graduating from college or high school and not knowing what to do - has been copied ENDLESSLY since The Graduate and they make a new movie about it every year. Hell, they tried to copy The Graduate with the Summer of 42 right away. They are always using that same formula...up to this day. Hasn't aged well? That's like saying Die Hard hasn't aged well but love the movies that copied it.
Graduate hasn't aged well? That's like saying the Beatles, Chuck Berry, Hank Williams and Stones classic hits suck now. You know, the folks the set the foundation that set a plethora of copy-cats.
I guess it's all taste.
And apart from the dialogue, the setting and the times, it's a brilliantly shot film...with a score that perfectly matches what you are seeing on film.
Only the setting is a product of it's time.
That same youth angst after graduating from college or high school and not knowing what to do - has been copied ENDLESSLY since The Graduate and they make a new movie about it every year. Hell, they tried to copy The Graduate with the Summer of 42 right away. They are always using that same formula...up to this day. Hasn't aged well? That's like saying Die Hard hasn't aged well but love the movies that copied it.
Graduate hasn't aged well? That's like saying the Beatles, Chuck Berry, Hank Williams and Stones classic hits suck now. You know, the folks the set the foundation that set a plethora of copy-cats.
I guess it's all taste.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 2:14 am
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:18 am to Hugo Stiglitz
funny how there are pages and pages of disagreements among films featuring white people (with some really egregious frickups) but one film with black people gets snubbed or no black people get nominated for a couple of years and it is "racism"
How about it is "another difference of opinion"?
How about it is "another difference of opinion"?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:23 am to AlbertMeansWell
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Life is Beautiful was far superior than both of those films.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:24 am to H-Town Tiger
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That's the problem with these threads, someone will disagree with pretty much any winner. The truly egregious ones though are things Citizen Kane or Raging Bull losing to mostly forgotten movies.
Well said.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:40 am to RollTide1987
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I have seen Titanic more times than the other two films you listed and my first name is not Gabriel. Also...you left out the other Oscar front runner: L.A. Confidential, which I have watched more times than Good Will Hunting and As Good as it Gets combined.
I don't see how, unless your mother bought the dvd and forced you to watch it with her. GWH and GAIG are on TV all the time, LA con and T are never.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:24 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:52 am to Kujo
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I don't see how, unless your mother bought the dvd and forced you to watch it with her. GWH and GAIG are on TV all the time, LA con and T are never.
You must live on some planet where Titanic is never on TV and you need ovaries to appreciate it on any level. Drop by Earth one of these days. We have beer and stuff.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:23 pm to Kujo
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I don't see how, unless your mother bought the dvd and forced you to watch it with her.
Are you like 12 or something?
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LA con and T are never.
I own both L.A. Confidential and Titanic. I like those movies more than Good Will Hunting and As Good as It Gets.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:57 pm to gthog61
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funny how there are pages and pages of disagreements among films featuring white people (with some really egregious frickups) but one film with black people gets snubbed or no black people get nominated for a couple of years and it is "racism"
Not to derail the thread, but not a single minority getting nominated for any of the 20 possible acting slots over the past two years is absurd. The problem isn't the winners, or even the Oscars really, but how few roles are going to minorities despite being in a more diverse country. It ain't 1950 anymore.
But since you bring it up, Driving Miss Daisy winning in 1990 while Do the Right Thing wasn't even nominated is perhaps the greatest Oscar travesty ever. Or I don't know... friggin' Glory came out in 1989 as well. Not nominated for Best Picture.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:33 pm to Baloo
Youre generally right about snubs in the past although people here will never admit it. That said, the Academy has more than made up for it in recent years and one year is not cause for some outrage. It would be more demeaning to have some quota system in place.
Secondly, Hollywood blacks seem to think they have some monopoly on the minority roles that we are supposed to be outraged which is outrageous itself. This whole faux outrage isn't about 'hey where are all the multicultural films and actors?,' it's 'Hey why don't more black people get nominated.'
Secondly, Hollywood blacks seem to think they have some monopoly on the minority roles that we are supposed to be outraged which is outrageous itself. This whole faux outrage isn't about 'hey where are all the multicultural films and actors?,' it's 'Hey why don't more black people get nominated.'
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:46 pm to Baloo
Madea should be nominated every year. She crazy.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:03 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
American Beauty over The Green Mile.... SMH
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:53 pm to kizomich
Look, everyone is always trying to fight me on facts.
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GWHunting will be on TV, 4 times in the next 3 days
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Titanic 2 times in the next 14 days
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LA Confidential, ZERO times in the next 14 days
But I concede because I'm obviously wrong, as no one agrees with me, except maybe TV scheduling execs.
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GWHunting will be on TV, 4 times in the next 3 days
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Titanic 2 times in the next 14 days
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LA Confidential, ZERO times in the next 14 days
But I concede because I'm obviously wrong, as no one agrees with me, except maybe TV scheduling execs.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:05 pm to Kujo
So you are 12. Okay. Thanks for letting us know.
Because only a 12-year-old would use TV schedules to argue his/her point.
"It comes on TV more so it obviously must be better!"
The Godfather comes on zero times in the next 14 days, so obviously Good Will Hunting is the better movie.
Because only a 12-year-old would use TV schedules to argue his/her point.
"It comes on TV more so it obviously must be better!"
The Godfather comes on zero times in the next 14 days, so obviously Good Will Hunting is the better movie.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:12 pm to RollTide1987
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The Godfather comes on zero times in the next 14 days, so obviously Good Will Hunting is the better movie.
I agree with you about using TV scheduling as being foolish......
But GWH is better than the Godfather.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:17 pm to SouthMSReb
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But GWH is better than the Godfather.
Hey guys, Matt Damon posts here!
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:23 pm to REG861
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Hey guys, Matt Damon posts here!
I actually thought Robin Williams was the better actor in the movie.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:32 pm to SouthMSReb
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But GWH is better than the Godfather.
never seen the Godfather or Scarface in their entirety. I think they were cool when they came out, but being that their model was replicated by movies after, they both seem boring and uninspired.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:36 pm to RollTide1987
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Because only a 12-year-old would use TV schedules to argue his/her point.
"It comes on TV more so it obviously must be better!"
Nevermind that frequency on TV is not solely a product of popularity or quality, but is also a product of whether whoever owns the rights to said movie has sold them to various TV networks, one TV network or refuses to sell the rights. Or only allows to be shown a limited amount of times, as in the case of Its a Wonderful Life which is only on once or twice a year now, where as in the past it was shown to death.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:40 pm to Kujo
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never seen the Godfather or Scarface in their entirety. I think they were cool when they came out, but being that their model was replicated by movies after, they both seem boring and uninspired.
Wow you sound like an idiot. A) Comparing the Godfather to Scarface, B) the rest of your statement, C) saying the rest of your statement after admitting you haven't seen either. Shall I keep going?
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