re: Spinoff - You're Not A Medical Professional And Witness An Accident

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If a member is unresponsive/unconscious, not breathing and there is no other immediate danger, I will do whatever I can to move the victim away from the scene of the accident and administer any sort of life saving care until paramedics arrive on scene to take over.

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please don't

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Not too terribly long ago, the good people at that scene would have stomped this guy into the ground for his behavior and the community/police/courts would have allowed it

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So in your opinion, assaulting the individual that filmed the aftermath of the incident would be the right thing to do in this instance? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just sounds like you're suggesting committing another crime in order to avenge the injured/dead in this accident. In your opinion, what would a just sentence for this individual be? FWIW it sounds like the Judge in this case agrees that the 30 day sentence was not enough, but legally his hands were tied.

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Tigeralum2008

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My thoughts exactly. In a day and age where people reach for their phones to record shite instead of making a difference, I would actually be more interested in helping another human to the utmost of my ability.

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I would actually be more interested in helping another human to the utmost of my ability.

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But by moving the person you could inadvertently cause more harm than good.

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no never

never move them

you could do more harm than good

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I wouldn't say "never", depends on risk to other threats.

Better to move and risk spinal cord injury and live than to leave them in a car with leaking gas, flood waters rising, etc.

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Other than the filming of the incident, what would you have done different?

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The fricking moron never called 911.

At the very least call 911.

At most, stop being an a-hole by filming something like that.

In the simplest terms, if the "community" doesn't regulate itself then you get shite like this. There are daily linked examples on this board of people acting outside the bounds of societal norms. Our modern system protects the individual, which is a good thing to an extent, but there are limits and we are getting near those limits.

Look at the SJW people, they truly believe that their feelings and desires are more important than everyone else's. That is not how a functioning human society works. In a microcosm, I will give you an example. I am writing this from the airport, there are thousands of people here all attempting to get to their flights to go somewhere to do something important. One dick just stopped dead center in the main walkway to send a text and caused a massive pileup in the flow of people. My instant impulse was to push this a-hole out of the way but I know that I would end up in cuffs. So I scooted around him and muttered "a-hole". But is it right that this one clueless frick is allowed to satisfy his immediate desire to the penalty of the hundreds?

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Given my particular situation, I would have gladly traded the use of my legs for my life.

2 incidents that happened in Tulsa in the 90's when I lived there:

1) State Trooper commander I knew from doing guard duty at bank I worked for got sued for arresting lil local ad rag weekly newspaper "reporter" and lost a personal $10k judgement. The reporter was filmed climbing onto hood of auto wreck and all sorts of interference with the extraction of the driver at a wreck. Freedom of the press


2) the car wreck that had me change professions: PM Rush hour, 2 lane S. Tulsa 45mph zone. I was 2nd in line behind woman who got hit almost squarely head on by vehicle wanting to hurry into subdivision ahead of our line of traffic. Fully 2 vehicles at 45 mph each towards each other. Broke the womans' right foot off and impaled her tibia/fibula through the firewall sheet metal when she tried to hit the brake to avoid getting smacked. Airbag had her stunned. I was only person willing to get out and offer any assistance for 5-10 mins, not until sirens in distance did any others go see about "hitter" while I comforted and kept immobile the "hittee". At the time I only knew from TV to keep person still, nothing else. Got a nice "Thank You" letter from the woman's family for not allowing the lady to hurt herself further in shocked state trying to get up, get her phone from far side of car, etc..