re: Tough Story: Constable Accidentally shoots and kills 12 year old Girl

I've seen plenty of shooting training designed to maximize stress and accuracy for the most part goes way way way down. It isn't mental. It's physical.

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how close was he? caliber? could the bullet still have went through and killed the daughter?

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Were the walls white or yellow? How the frick do I know. I know what you know and that is the constable made a poor shot and killed someone. Take it for what it is. Not his fault but was a shitty side effect.

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this is 100% on the father

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Yes, he will spend a long time in prison. I hope he suffers mentally for the rest of his life.

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Constables are required to complete Act 49 certification and training before performing any court duties. Basic Act 49 training is provided by the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency (PCCD), the course is 80 hours of classroom instructions on the follow subjects: use of force, professional development, civil law, criminal law, prisoner transport, courtroom security, defensive tactics, OC and baton, mechanics of arrest, role of the constable, and crisis intervention. Constables must pass each subject by scoring at least 70% on a written exam.

Each year, Constables must take 40 hours of Continuing Education to keep their certification; this includes 20 hours Con Ed for basic certification and 20 hours Con Ed for firearms.

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That is what wikipedia reports to be the required training for a Penn. Constable. If so I can imagine that will change after this story. That is not a whole lot of training for a gun toting agent, which is once again why I will say that he was under trained/prepared.

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Making rent shouldn't be a problem after the wrongful death law suit.

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Gonna suck when all of that money is tied up in his commissary because he'll be in jail for murder. You can only eat so many funyuns

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No just not but hell no! My point is that he hit the fricker in the arm instead of the chest. If he hits the guy in the chest the right person dies. If you are stupid enough to point a gun at a cop you deserve to die. The only thing I am trying to say is that it sucks that the constables training was not high enough for him to place a proper shot anywhere in the largest part of a persons body.

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again, it's not a movie.
What do you think happened when the rifle was pointed at the Constable? He grabbed his weapon and probably moved.
At the instant he grabbed his weapon, the idiot dad probably started moving as well.
Have you ever shot a gun before?
It's not all that easy to hit someone in the chest that's 20-30 feet away, while you're shitting your pants b/c you might get shot and your target is likely moving, even if he's only moving minimally.

Go get one of those plastic air pistols and try to reenact this with a friend and see if you can hit him, much less hit him in the chest.

You can spout off training all you want. Things change when shite gets real.

And i can't emphasize enough, shooting a pistol is nothing like what you see in movies. It's really not all that easy, even for trained people to hit their target in the chest, unless that target is completely stationary poking his chest out for you and you are in a shooting position that you take at the range.

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I know what you know and that is the constable made a poor shot and killed someone.

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Well we don't even know what would have happened if he made a "proper" shot

that was my point

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Well we don't even know what would have happened if he made a "proper" shot

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It would have had a whole lot more to travel through that is for sure.

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This is all on the father for brandishing a rifle with this daughter right behind him.

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He could get a felony murder charge.

Why did the constable need to knock twice though? Once the homeowner answered the first time, and slammed the door in his face, couldn't he have just nailed the notice to the door and walked off?