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Greetings my LSU friends!!!
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:25 pm
I know you have the stickied topic at the top regarding Miles to Michigan talk.
My thread is more about Les Miles the coach.
I've tried to watch as much LSU football the last 2 years, fully knowing that he was the most likely replacement of Lloyd Carr.
I'll tell you straight up, i've never thought of him as a good coach. So I come to you with some help.
Is Les Miles a good coach or more a product of the talent at LSU?
Also, does LSU's large sum of penalties have to do with lack of discipline from Coach Miles? Or is it more SEC refs picking on the big boys?
From the games i've seen, Les has made some questionable decisions. Sure, he's gambled and gotten some key 4th down conversions but, some of those games never should have come down to that.
For instance, in the VT game, the Hokies wanted nothing to do with Keiland Williams. After that dominating game, he rarely saw any carries in the next few games. Why is that?
In the Kentucky game, Scott was ripping the Cats apart in the 1st half. He rarely saw the field the rest of the way. Why?
I hope I haven't offended any of you guys with these questions. I'm just curious. I wish you guys the best of luck. I hope this isn't a distraction in your march to a national title. Whether you keep Les, or he comes to Michigan, I will continue to cheer you guys on!
P.S: I hope Ohio State sneaks into the title game. I'd love to see another SEC team beat the living crap out of sweatervest Bucks. Sure they look tough beating up on my team but, they wouldn't stand a chance against you guys.
Geaux Tigers!
My thread is more about Les Miles the coach.
I've tried to watch as much LSU football the last 2 years, fully knowing that he was the most likely replacement of Lloyd Carr.
I'll tell you straight up, i've never thought of him as a good coach. So I come to you with some help.
Is Les Miles a good coach or more a product of the talent at LSU?
Also, does LSU's large sum of penalties have to do with lack of discipline from Coach Miles? Or is it more SEC refs picking on the big boys?
From the games i've seen, Les has made some questionable decisions. Sure, he's gambled and gotten some key 4th down conversions but, some of those games never should have come down to that.
For instance, in the VT game, the Hokies wanted nothing to do with Keiland Williams. After that dominating game, he rarely saw any carries in the next few games. Why is that?
In the Kentucky game, Scott was ripping the Cats apart in the 1st half. He rarely saw the field the rest of the way. Why?
I hope I haven't offended any of you guys with these questions. I'm just curious. I wish you guys the best of luck. I hope this isn't a distraction in your march to a national title. Whether you keep Les, or he comes to Michigan, I will continue to cheer you guys on!
P.S: I hope Ohio State sneaks into the title game. I'd love to see another SEC team beat the living crap out of sweatervest Bucks. Sure they look tough beating up on my team but, they wouldn't stand a chance against you guys.
Geaux Tigers!
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Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:26 pm to WolverineFan
You don't go 32-5 if you're not a good coach
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:26 pm to WolverineFan
No he's a terrible coach - don't let anyone tell you any different! 
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:27 pm to WolverineFan
quote:
Is Les Miles a good coach or more a product of the talent at LSU?
He's our coach and you can't have him, piss off.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:28 pm to WolverineFan
I think Miles is a great CEO coach, Wolverine. He hires great coordinators and lets them coach. I have been troubled by the penalties and some of the depth chart questions you posed and I don't have an answer to that. I think he is a quality guy who has handled some discipline issues very well in the offseason.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:32 pm to WolverineFan
Isn't this a little like asking:
"Hey, I heard your wife might be leaving you soon! I just wanted to know, is she a good frick?"
"Hey, I heard your wife might be leaving you soon! I just wanted to know, is she a good frick?"
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:33 pm to WolverineFan
Sorry these guys are busting your balls 
Miles is good when he has a lot of talent on his team. I think he would do really well at UM, because he has seen what SEC speed will do up there and will recruit accordingly. His strong point is hiring assistants and selling the program IMO. I'd rather not point out any cons for obvious reasons.
Miles is good when he has a lot of talent on his team. I think he would do really well at UM, because he has seen what SEC speed will do up there and will recruit accordingly. His strong point is hiring assistants and selling the program IMO. I'd rather not point out any cons for obvious reasons. 
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:35 pm to WolverineFan
he's good, not great, but you need a budget to get top assistants
he will tinker with gameplans if those gameplans come from coaches that aren't his hires
he's getting a "Gambler" label, but he's pretty conservative
he comes off as an absolute retard in media situations
he's a much better fit for UM than LSU. UM has lower expectations, can win more with less talent, and is in a much lesser conference. also the style of play les wants is a better fit for the slow10
he will tinker with gameplans if those gameplans come from coaches that aren't his hires
he's getting a "Gambler" label, but he's pretty conservative
he comes off as an absolute retard in media situations
he's a much better fit for UM than LSU. UM has lower expectations, can win more with less talent, and is in a much lesser conference. also the style of play les wants is a better fit for the slow10
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:35 pm to WolverineFan
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For instance, in the VT game, the Hokies wanted nothing to do with Keiland Williams. After that dominating game, he rarely saw any carries in the next few games. Why is that?
They wanted nothing to do with any of our players. It was not KW that stole the show. He doesn't get the carries because he doesn't block worth a shite, so everytime he is in the backfield, the defense knows it will be a run.
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In the Kentucky game, Scott was ripping the Cats apart in the 1st half. He rarely saw the field the rest of the way. Why?
He had a few carries in the second half, but for little or no yardage. The defense keyed on him, so the coach made a smart decision to use other backs.
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I'll tell you straight up, i've never thought of him as a good coach
He is something like 32-5 at LSU. If he is not a good coach, he wouldn't have won that many games. He is a great recruiter, hires the right coordinators, and is a great person in general (values).
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:36 pm to WolverineFan
quote:
Is Les Miles a good coach or more a product of the talent at LSU?
both
quote:
Also, does LSU's large sum of penalties have to do with lack of discipline from Coach Miles? Or is it more SEC refs picking on the big boys?
both
quote:
For instance, in the VT game, the Hokies wanted nothing to do with Keiland Williams. After that dominating game, he rarely saw any carries in the next few games. Why is that?
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In the Kentucky game, Scott was ripping the Cats apart in the 1st half. He rarely saw the field the rest of the way. Why?
About Williams and Scott getting less carries, that's a very touchy subject around here. The majority opinion is that they aren't seniors while Jacob Hester is. Not to say Hester isn't good, b/c he is THE MAN. But Les is very loyal to his seniors.
See Justin Vincent last season.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:36 pm to WolverineFan
btw, I'm still wondering where C. Scott and K. Williams are.. although they did see the field more last week. The Kentucky game was a complete boner. Why C. Scott didn't play is still unknown and the excuse Miles gave was puzzling. (UK adjusted to the plays that we run him in or something. So instead we run the option to Hester) 
This post was edited on 11/19/07 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:48 pm to WolverineFan
quote:
I hope this isn't a distraction in your march to a national title.
we were so gonna win it too until I lost focus and looked at this thread
Posted on 11/19/07 at 4:58 pm to WolverineFan
Nice post! You're welcome here anytime. We can take the criticism, constructive or not. We've developed thick skin down here!
You make some good points, and I have thought about those things myself. Who knows??? I just hope we take care of business these next two games and play like that team that beat VA Tech. We'll have more than a month to get ready for whoever survives!!!
:cheers: :cheers:
You make some good points, and I have thought about those things myself. Who knows??? I just hope we take care of business these next two games and play like that team that beat VA Tech. We'll have more than a month to get ready for whoever survives!!!
:cheers: :cheers:Posted on 11/19/07 at 5:09 pm to WolverineFan
To TrueTiger07,back9Tiger,LSUTiger205:
It's because of people like YOU that LSU gets a bad reputation.Why not try and grow up and take your childish frustrations out of here.
It's because of people like YOU that LSU gets a bad reputation.Why not try and grow up and take your childish frustrations out of here.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 5:20 pm to WolverineFan
quote:
WolverineFan
An obvious nom de guerre.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 6:06 pm to WolverineFan
Who's alter is this?
SFP?
SFP?
quote:
WolverineFan
Posted on 11/19/07 at 6:16 pm to WolverineFan
Hey Michigan. Sorry for all the negative comments to you. Don't take it to heart. There are some in every bunch! I feel that Les is a good coach, don't know if he is great. I do agree that some of his good coaching comes from the players he has to coach. I also question some of his calls (if they are his calls, might be the coordinators). But, the record LSU has speaks for it self. Everything here is only opinions. The only way to know for sure is to get past the last of Saban's recruits and see how well we do when it is ALL Les's recruits and calls. That would start I believe next year. I really hope he stays put for at least a year so we can see what He can do. But, if he chooses to leave for Michigan, I wish him the best. I am sure we will get another great coach. I am sure LSU is one of the top, if not the top job in college football right now. Keep your intelligent, gracious posts coming. Some of us down here do appreciate it! Good luck Michigan!
Posted on 11/19/07 at 6:57 pm to WolverineFan
He's a good coach. He LOVES seniors. I think he rewards the seniors with extra playing time. I would go with whoever is hot at the time but we have a ton of depth at RB and he seems to keep them all happy while winning in the process. The Mad Hatter has balls too, I'll give him that! I certainly don't blame him for wanting to go back home and coach his alma mater. I find it refreshing that the $$$$$ aspect means very little to him. It's all about pride and passion!!
BTW, Welcome. It will be good to have someone on the board to give us some Big 10 insight.
BTW, Welcome. It will be good to have someone on the board to give us some Big 10 insight.
Posted on 11/19/07 at 9:50 pm to WolverineFan
If anyone believes this dufus is a legitimate "Wolverine," then boy do I have some real estate to sell you. I mean read the damn thing -- carefully"
quote:
I know you have the stickied topic at the top regarding Miles to Michigan talk.
My thread is more about Les Miles the coach.
I've tried to watch as much LSU football the last 2 years, fully knowing that he was the most likely replacement of Lloyd Carr.
I'll tell you straight up, i've never thought of him as a good coach. So I come to you with some help.
Is Les Miles a good coach or more a product of the talent at LSU?
Also, does LSU's large sum of penalties have to do with lack of discipline from Coach Miles? Or is it more SEC refs picking on the big boys?
From the games i've seen, Les has made some questionable decisions. Sure, he's gambled and gotten some key 4th down conversions but, some of those games never should have come down to that.
For instance, in the VT game, the Hokies wanted nothing to do with Keiland Williams. After that dominating game, he rarely saw any carries in the next few games. Why is that?
In the Kentucky game, Scott was ripping the Cats apart in the 1st half. He rarely saw the field the rest of the way. Why?
I hope I haven't offended any of you guys with these questions. I'm just curious. I wish you guys the best of luck. I hope this isn't a distraction in your march to a national title. Whether you keep Les, or he comes to Michigan, I will continue to cheer you guys on!
P.S: I hope Ohio State sneaks into the title game. I'd love to see another SEC team beat the living crap out of sweatervest Bucks. Sure they look tough beating up on my team but, they wouldn't stand a chance against you guys.
Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 11/19/07 at 9:58 pm to WolverineFan
look at saban les. if you are happy in br stay, u might not find happiness in ann arbor. i know u played there and you can stil love mich. but if your happy here than don't mess with a good thing. just think les when we get pissed at u for either losing a game or a bad coahing decision you can laugh it off or get mad. if the same thing happenes in mich and fans aren't happy with u the nwhere would u go. what i'm saying is wait untill u hate us and then leave
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