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Serious Question re: Elite
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:00 am
During the whole Miles saga I read many posters saying that LSU needs to make the move to return the football program to the days of being elite.
Now, I know some people are going to accuse me of not being a true fan for this question, but when was LSU elite and how are you defining elite? Which coach was that under?
I am serious, because when I think back over the history of LSU football I don't see a program that is elite at any point for a sustained period. I see periodic elite years (most owned by Miles and Saban) but I do not see a program that can be reasonably called consistently elite.
Flame away...
Now, I know some people are going to accuse me of not being a true fan for this question, but when was LSU elite and how are you defining elite? Which coach was that under?
I am serious, because when I think back over the history of LSU football I don't see a program that is elite at any point for a sustained period. I see periodic elite years (most owned by Miles and Saban) but I do not see a program that can be reasonably called consistently elite.
Flame away...
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Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:01 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:
I see periodic elite years
pretty sure this is all anybody really wants right now
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:02 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Between 2001 and 2011 we won the west 5 times and played in BCS Bowls 5 times with 2 NC and 1 NC Game. That's elite.
Since 2011 we have never won the west or sniffed a BCS/NY6 Bowl Game.
Since 2011 we have never won the west or sniffed a BCS/NY6 Bowl Game.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:03 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
LSU isn't an elite "team" but it is an elite "program".
We have the facilities, amenities, money, training, brand, recruiting base...you name it, LSU has it.
It's why we're discussing firing a coach who, essentially, went 9-3 this season.
We expected more because we can achieve more.
The program is elite, Les Miles is not.
We have the facilities, amenities, money, training, brand, recruiting base...you name it, LSU has it.
It's why we're discussing firing a coach who, essentially, went 9-3 this season.
We expected more because we can achieve more.
The program is elite, Les Miles is not.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:03 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
2003-2007 we were most definitely elite.
2 National Championships in that span confirm that.
2 National Championships in that span confirm that.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:05 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
can you name 5 teams you consider elite since 2000
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:05 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
2001-2007 we were "elite"
We had possibly the greatest regular season ever in 2011.
LSU football as we know it died on 1/9/12 at approx 8:15 pm.
We had possibly the greatest regular season ever in 2011.
LSU football as we know it died on 1/9/12 at approx 8:15 pm.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:09 am to SabiDojo
quote:
The program is elite, Les Miles is not, nor has he ever been.
FIFY!
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:09 am to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:
LSU football as we know it died on 1/9/12 at approx 8:15 pm.
And has not recovered.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:11 am to LSU-MNCBABY
It died on the Yeldon screen pass
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:11 am to BayouBengals03
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It died on the Yeldon screen pass
Oh man. That was so fricking heartbreaking.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:13 am to SabiDojo
It's true.
Worked all offseason, with basically the same core of players from the 2011 team, to prove that 1/9 was somewhat of a fluke. Outplayed them, and then they stole it back in a handful of plays.
Nov. 3, 2012 was the last day of the Golden Age of LSU football. It ended on that screen pass.
Worked all offseason, with basically the same core of players from the 2011 team, to prove that 1/9 was somewhat of a fluke. Outplayed them, and then they stole it back in a handful of plays.
Nov. 3, 2012 was the last day of the Golden Age of LSU football. It ended on that screen pass.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:14 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Oh man. That was so fricking heartbreaking.
You aint even lyin'.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:15 am to BayouBengals03
Damn. Real talk.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:20 am to BayouBengals03
Man, I remember walking out the superdome, feeling confused.
I walked out Tiger Stadium heartbroken and its never been the same.
It definitely died on that screen pass.
I walked out Tiger Stadium heartbroken and its never been the same.
It definitely died on that screen pass.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:22 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:
I am serious, because when I think back over the history of LSU football I don't see a program that is elite at any point for a sustained period.
lulz
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:22 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Lsu Lay has never been elite. Very good for a season or three. They are a good and popular program. Yes they could have been elite had Saban stayed. Miles is a decent coach and basically always has been. There is not a program in the country that gets so much talent that underachieving more than lsu. Lsu has everything to offer for the players and fans. Great facilities and an awesome place to tailgate. Networks love to come here. It's a shame that the stadium is half empty by the early third quarter unless the game is real close or its bama or fla. there is no way ole miss is 38-17 better talent wise than lsu.
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:23 am to SabiDojo
quote:
LSU isn't an elite "team" but it is an elite "program".
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:24 am to RedTigerRulz
quote:
The program is elite, Les Miles is not, nor has he ever been.
FIFY!
ugh...
this thread is definitely going to bring out the intellectuals on this board
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/9/15 at 11:26 am to Choctaw
Sorry Choctaw but. Red is right. Miles is not not has he ever been an elite coach. Real good a couple times???? Sure.
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