re: Serious Question re: Elite

Missed that part. My bad

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Show me where someone said anything about Curley ?????

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LINK

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I may be wrong.

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Correct.

He's won the West exactly half of the time, which is awesome. But 9 out of 11 is way off.

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Miles' supporters do not have an argument about him being elite.

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pretty sure i just made it

He is not an elite coach man. Do you think the last two years that lsu has been even close to elite???? I am tired of talking about what he has done in the past. The last two years is proof enough to me that he is not elite. Watch how motivated this team comes out against tech. An elite coach would have them fired up. But they will come out flat and unmotivated. Book it.

i've seen 4 coaches named that have accomplished the same or more than Miles since he's been here...and i would say they're pretty good company to have.

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i've seen 4 coaches named that have accomplished the same or more than Miles since he's been here...and i would say they're pretty good company to have

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And you are 100% correct, sir. I like Miles', but unfortunately I think his best years are behind him and there is nothing wrong with that. He has had a very good career and will always be remembered as one of the best, if not the best, coaches in LSU history.

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Choctaw

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So do you think Ole miss, MSU,A & M, and Arkansas are on the same level as LSU????


Its A simple question....

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Between 2001 and 2011 we won the west 5 times and played in BCS Bowls 5 times with 2 NC and 1 NC Game. That's elite.

Since 2011 we have never won the west or sniffed a BCS/NY6 Bowl Game.

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This! LSU was at one point the top NCAA program in the nation during 2000s. The first to win two BCS titles. Miles was 5-1 in his first 6 bowl games at LSU, with a loss to Penn State on a sloppy field. A game LSU should have won. Among the 5 wins were blowouts of Miami, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia Tech and Texas A&M. People were saying give Miles a month to prepare and he will destroy his opponent. Les was 4-2 versus Alabama. LSU was top dog.

Then LSU hit the skids with Les Miles. That abortion of a BCS championship game seemed to be the point the program started a rapid slide. Miles is 1-3 in his last four bowl games. He is 0-5 against Bama, 1-3 vs. Miss and 2-2 vs Ark. His SEC record has declined each year, except the last. The program is an afterthought. It is headed to the Texas Bowl to play Texas Tech. Based on the last 4 bowl games Texas Tech is a serious threat to win this game. WOW how far have we fallen.

The good news is Les is a good coach. He needs to understand that major changes need to be made. His offense and QB development must change. He must develop an adequate passing attack to support the run. He must use his early games to develop that passing attack and QB. He must become less conservative and predictable. He must be able to adapt on the fly if his game plan isn't working. He must attack his opponents weakness rather than always trying to out-muscle opponents which works against inferior opponents but fails miserably against strong quality opponents. He must modernize his offense.

Name a team that was more elite from 2001 through 2011. The entire stretch. Not just 3 or 4 years. There isn't one