re: OFFICIAL "The Wire" M/TV Board rewatch thread (current discussion starts ~p. 53)

trying to catch up to yall. i am about half way through season 2. I will say a lot of the things that kind of confused me the first time i saw the series make a lot more sense this time.

OP updated (was off yesterday, my bad).

I'll try to post my thoughts today, but not sure if I'll be able to. But there was a frick TON of things going on these last few episodes. Man, season four is really awesome.

Only five weeks left with S5 only having ten episodes.

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Burrell is a master at grinding out his career. That's for damn sure.

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him playing golf with OG Clay Davis is awesome.

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And of course, Herc fricks up with Randy. fricking Herc

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what a fricking douche, I really hate Herc, but why did Kima and Carver trust him he was a total frick up before? I guess they don;t know about the camera but The Bunk and Lester would have handled the Randy thing a lot better.

I feel really bad for Dukie, poor kid never had a chance, much more deserving of special treatment that Coke's boy Namond gets

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Lester is a master. That scene were he finds "Lex" was really great

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Lester is natural poh-leese.

Okay, shite. It's taken me forever, but I am ready to discuss. SO MUCH shite happened in these last three episodes. It's awesome.

I liked that we see Albert acting up (again) in class, but then we find out that he came home yesterday and his fricking mom was dead on the couch. Holy shite, that's awful. I can't imagine a kid having to go through that. As much as I can't stand that little prick, it was cool to see some background on why he's such an a-hole.

So this is what starts turning Michael bad I guess. Hmmm..

Another McNUlty/Bodie scene. Love how McNUlty just rolls up in uniform and sits with Bodie. Could be dangerous for Bodie though.

"Motherfricker, as far as I'm concerned you are the Special Crimes Unit." Daniels to Freamon.

fricking Herc, man. Jesus. And Bunk calling him a "simple frick" made me bust out laughing for real.

All this shite going on and Carcetti is waltzing around town getting shite handled and the schools are in a fricking $54 million deficit? Damn.

Lester's black old man legs/walk freaks me out bad.





Landsman doesn't want any more bodies on the wall even though he fricking knows that there are some all over the city. Nice. Good job, police. Idiots. So fricking stupid.

Man, Dukie has grown up a lot over this season. Like the actor I mean. He looks two or three years older than when it started.

Glad to see Kenard get his arse kicked by Michael. I assume he actually was lying and stole the package from Namond, but it was hard to tell. But I assume they actually did go check his basement door.

And of course bitch arse Namond doesn't want any part of that shite with Kenard. You just want to be a pretend badass I guess. Pussy bitch.

fricking Bubbs, man. Trying to get himself out of one situation and ends up killing Sherrod. shite.

Michael slapping Namond around. I think this may be my happiest Wire moment in four seasons up to this point. Like for real.

I remember the first time I watched the show and thinking about how this Michael transformation was WAAAY too forced and fast. And I'm seeing it again now and thinking the exact same thing. It just feels out of place and doesn't seem to fit Michael at all. he's done a complete 180 and for almost no reason (I guess you could say it was Bug's dad, but still...that shouldn't make him turn to the game this hard).

Now they are burning Randy's place. Damn.

My man Cutty being tough and it cost him. Monk did him dirty, and so did Mike.

Randy's transformation is finally here. And it sucks. Feel bad for that kid.

A lot happened this episode.





Holy fricking shite! I forgot all about Bubbs trying to hang himself in the interrogation room. That shis caught me legit off guard.

I don't know how Andre Royo never won an Emmy for playing Bubbles. That is a fricking crime.

I don't get why nobody rolls up on Omar. Everybody kinda knows where is hangs (Butchie's). But nobody does shite.

Ole boy watching Deadwood in the hospital. frick yeah, cocksucker.

Bodie: "frick Marlo." Uh oh. Come on, Bode..

Omar selling Joe's shite back to him. That shite is cold and completely hilarious and awesome.

Jimmy trying getting Bodie off. And now he's snooping around and trying to do detective work. He wants back in so bad.

Hey. Nurse bitch. Get the frick off my man Cutty's case.

I don't see why Randy can't still stay with his foster mom. She isn't dead. But they seem to be trying to find a permanent home for him. What gives??

For all the dudes getting popped for snitching, Bodie sure as hell hangs with the cops a lot. And now he just got seen. No...

Now one of my favorite scenes of the whole series with Bodie and McNulty. I love how Bodie doesn't even know if they're in the same city or not. Those corner boys really only know the corners. Sad.
"This game is rigged, man."
"We like them little bitches on a chess board."
This show is so fricking awesome.
"You're a soldier, Bodie." "Hell yeah.."


Joe buying for 20 on the dollar, and told Marlo 30. Damn, son.

Run, Bodie. RUN. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Michael straight up wearing the ring around his neck now. Doesn't give a frick. And also isn't really taking as good of care as Bug anymore. But Marlo has him up in their own place, so maybe Michael joined in so he could help out Bug? But I still don't buy that because he could still just sort of join the game and doesn't have to be killing people and starting shite. His turn is just so stupid to me.

Weebay putting that bitch arse wife of his in her place. BOOM. Nice work, Bay.

Carcetti turned down the bailout money from the governor. "He was gonna make me beg and have a press converence with my on my knees." And Bodie was talking about "Just don't ask me to live on my knees, ya know?" Parallels, parallels, parallels.

Randy is in a home now, but fricking Carver is the one who dropped him off. So not only do they know he's a snitch (sort of on accident), but every one of them sees 5-0 drop him off there. You're not helping anything, Carv. At all.

Damn. Bubbs seeing Walon and losing his shite made me tear up a little bit.

Michael is fully gone now. Stupid.

And Namond got that second chance he didn't fricking deserve. Ugh. Cutty dating that nurse though...what a dumb bitch. McNulty back on the SCU detail (yay).

So much happened in these three episides. For a season that seemed a little slow a week or two ago, it ramped the hell up at the end and gave us all kinds of shite. Damn.

Love this show, and S4 is still my second favorite so far. And sorry this shite was so long.

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Burrell is a master at grinding out his career. That's for damn sure.

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Burrell - in a way - reminds me of Vic Mackey from The Shield. Not so much in the type of cop he is, but that raw, primal instinct for survival. Burrell is hard to beat, because he has mastered the game and is (almost) always 1 step ahead of those trying to bring him down. A hardnosed survivor that one is best advised not to underestimate.

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"Motherfricker, as far as I'm concerned you are the Special Crimes Unit." Daniels to Freamon.

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And this is why Daniels, while hard to like early on, got better and better as a character. Unlike McNulty who was constantly hitting bottom and starting over, Daniels had the better arc over the entire series. A well-intentioned good cop who was trying to have 1 foot in each camp (political upward mobility - and actually doing police work that got Freamon demoted to the Pawn Shop division in the first place).

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What you mean by that?

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getting shot trying to save mike

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And this is why Daniels, while hard to like early on, got better and better as a character. Unlike McNulty who was constantly hitting bottom and starting over, Daniels had the better arc over the entire series. A well-intentioned good cop who was trying to have 1 foot in each camp (political upward mobility - and actually doing police work that got Freamon demoted to the Pawn Shop division in the first place).

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Daniels getting promoted is one reason I do think Carcetti does care about the city and actually making it better. He has heard good things about him and wants to get someone in there who can do some good.

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SO MUCH shite happened in these last three episodes

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I'm a little late, but wanted to get in some comments, but you are right, the first half of S4 just kind of builds mostly with the election stuff, but that last 4-5 episodes pack a lot of punch.

I agree with you about Michael's arch seeming forced. I guess we are supposed to think Bug's dad coming back pushes him over but we never see the dad do anything to Bug and maybe that's intentional as well, but since they just strongly imply Michael was abused without saying it, it just doesn't play well. Marlo took an interest in him early when he wouldn't take his money, but that doesn't really go anywhere. I think there should have been something, like maybe Ofc Walker busted him for something petty or something more obvious to push him over.

I do have to disagree with you about your boy Namond. I feel bad for him. He's Ziggy. Annoying as frick, but he's just out of place, he has no business being in the game. At least Dee had some skills. He probably would have been much better running the legit stuff for Stringer, but he managed a crew pretty well. But Namond has none of that. Of course poor Dukie and even Michael would be more deserving, but the scene with Bunny and Bay was awesome. Bay lets go where Frank and Dee's mom could not. Good stuff, also when he rips DLonda's head off. What a count.
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Landsman doesn't want any more bodies on the wall even though he fricking knows that there are some all over the city. Nice. Good job, police. Idiots. So fricking stupid.

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and even after the Mayor says to not worry about stats (though he does like the idea of pinning them on Royce ) Still it makes it clear that the police are ultimately care more about themselves than the "people" fricked up.

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Bubbs, man. Trying to get himself out of one situation and ends up killing Sherrod. shite.

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the whole Bubbles story line was so sad. Though I'm a little confused as to why he was so attached to Sherrod? Was he just looking for someone to work with/care for since he's lonely? Still just awful. But after all Jays griping about Lester (the he's a Hun comments was hilarious) killing he clearance rate, he tells Norris to let Bubs go even though it was an easy clearance.

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McNUlty/Bodie scene. Love how McNUlty just rolls up in uniform and sits with Bodie. Could be dangerous for Bodie though.

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I was thinking that very thing when Jimmy sat down with him in that restaurant. Both should know it could be dangerous for Bodie. I also love the few scenes through the series where Bodie in particular and the cops interact in real life "off the job". Like when they run into Herc and Carver at the movies. Funny stuff. One of the toughest deaths on the show

I really wanted to hate Bodie after killing Wallace, but what a great character. I loved Bodie way more the 2nd time around. Hell yeah he's a soldier and he sees through everyones shite. Gangstgas, cops, other people. He gets it

Here's to Bodie

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Oh and also on the politics, as Lester points out, had they not taken down the wire, they may be further along on the Stanfield investigations, maybe even on the Co-op.

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that's on Lester though