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Johnny Jones Appreciation Thread
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:41 pm
Before anyone reads this (or doesn't), I would like to tell you, it will be long, and it will be quite positive...so people off the pain train, stop reading now. With that said...here we go:
I'm making this thread because of the seemingly overwhelming disdain most have for this man. People talk about his lack of passion, leadership, ability to coach, etc etc.
Well, many of you have not cared or do not care about basketball...until this year. I've seen SO MANY posts talking about "I never get excited for basketball, but I did this year and they let me down." Do you know why you were excited? Because of Benny. His godfather is here...who exactly hired his godfather? It's easy to say why Simmons is here, yet, nobody has given Jones any praises of the fact that he had the foresight to hire DP in the first place. But let's take Simmons and Blakeney out of the question. He has still brought in loads of talent that have made us a competitive force to be reckon with in the SEC. Each year he gets a transfer from a different school, or brings in a nice mixture of talent and program guys. It's because he has a passion and caring for the players. He doesn't jump up and down and look like he's constipated so he "doesn't care". The guy is constantly talking and working officials, trying to sway calls, showing emotion...most just watch it on TV so say that for no damn reason and it's getting old.
While staying on tourney appearances, we still have a great chance to go again this year. Since 1992, we have only been to back-to-back NCAA tournies once...that was in '05-'06. So there is a strong possibility that CJJ will have inherited a very average team, and each year improved upon that team. We can sit here and say "Yea, but that's because Ben is here." Or "Yea, he had Mickey and Martin."...great, he's the coach and got those guys.
Everybody has flaws. The Coach K, Tom Izzo, Self, Donovan, etc's of the world are few and far between. Many coaches can coach, but suck at connecting with players. Some are great at recruiting but suck with X's and O's. Jones is not without his downfalls. Our lack of rebounding and continuous defensive mishaps are frustrating to say the least. But scoring fast, playing uptempo...that's a philosophy and a style of play. It's literally no different than holding the ball, running methodical stuff, then trying to score with 5 on the shot clock and play tough D. It is all about preference as a coach.
Building on that, I'm so tired of the complaints about what this team does or does not do, specifically CJJ. For instance, we have shot too many 3's. Well, we have shooters, that's what they do. We try to score quickly and keep the pressure on the other team. Many, many shots have been very good and wide open shots. I can think of 3 specifically last night that were WIDE open, but if the other team simply won't guard you, you gotta take the shot. The problem at Charleston is that we weren't aggressive. So what did Johnny Jones do? He put Ben in the post, ran the offense through him, and we only shot 12 3-pointers. Does Jones get no credit for that? Or how about when Beech was hitting 3's from the U and they were up 15...and we came out in the 2nd half and immediately changed the entire way we played defense and destroyed their lead and forced them to call a timeout. Does Jones get credit for any adjustments he makes ever, or just when he doesn't make an adjustment we crucify him?
TL;DR Crowd (and overall summary): Do not give up hope on this team. We made a critical offensive adjustments last night, followed by an in-game defensive adjustment that caused us to outscore them by nearly 20 in the 2nd half. We have struggled in the early going, but we are a 3-pointer and a free throw away from being 6-1. Many negative people will just point out how we don't do this or that so we suck. Well, it's a real thing that we have 3 true Freshman playing significant minutes. In basketball, players have specific roles and they're trying to figure those roles out. Oh, and our team leader/best shooter is out along with our best low post player (outside of the Chosen One). They have taken early lumps, but adversity is a very good thing in the long run. We still have some difficult games, but I predict at some point this team will go on a 5-6 game stretch in the SEC where they're unstoppable.
I worked for Brady, was there for Trent, have maybe missed single digit home games since '02. Give me an 81-80 game over a 60-59 game any day of the damn week. Thank you Johnny for making LSU basketball relevant again
I'm making this thread because of the seemingly overwhelming disdain most have for this man. People talk about his lack of passion, leadership, ability to coach, etc etc.
Well, many of you have not cared or do not care about basketball...until this year. I've seen SO MANY posts talking about "I never get excited for basketball, but I did this year and they let me down." Do you know why you were excited? Because of Benny. His godfather is here...who exactly hired his godfather? It's easy to say why Simmons is here, yet, nobody has given Jones any praises of the fact that he had the foresight to hire DP in the first place. But let's take Simmons and Blakeney out of the question. He has still brought in loads of talent that have made us a competitive force to be reckon with in the SEC. Each year he gets a transfer from a different school, or brings in a nice mixture of talent and program guys. It's because he has a passion and caring for the players. He doesn't jump up and down and look like he's constipated so he "doesn't care". The guy is constantly talking and working officials, trying to sway calls, showing emotion...most just watch it on TV so say that for no damn reason and it's getting old.
While staying on tourney appearances, we still have a great chance to go again this year. Since 1992, we have only been to back-to-back NCAA tournies once...that was in '05-'06. So there is a strong possibility that CJJ will have inherited a very average team, and each year improved upon that team. We can sit here and say "Yea, but that's because Ben is here." Or "Yea, he had Mickey and Martin."...great, he's the coach and got those guys.
Everybody has flaws. The Coach K, Tom Izzo, Self, Donovan, etc's of the world are few and far between. Many coaches can coach, but suck at connecting with players. Some are great at recruiting but suck with X's and O's. Jones is not without his downfalls. Our lack of rebounding and continuous defensive mishaps are frustrating to say the least. But scoring fast, playing uptempo...that's a philosophy and a style of play. It's literally no different than holding the ball, running methodical stuff, then trying to score with 5 on the shot clock and play tough D. It is all about preference as a coach.
Building on that, I'm so tired of the complaints about what this team does or does not do, specifically CJJ. For instance, we have shot too many 3's. Well, we have shooters, that's what they do. We try to score quickly and keep the pressure on the other team. Many, many shots have been very good and wide open shots. I can think of 3 specifically last night that were WIDE open, but if the other team simply won't guard you, you gotta take the shot. The problem at Charleston is that we weren't aggressive. So what did Johnny Jones do? He put Ben in the post, ran the offense through him, and we only shot 12 3-pointers. Does Jones get no credit for that? Or how about when Beech was hitting 3's from the U and they were up 15...and we came out in the 2nd half and immediately changed the entire way we played defense and destroyed their lead and forced them to call a timeout. Does Jones get credit for any adjustments he makes ever, or just when he doesn't make an adjustment we crucify him?
TL;DR Crowd (and overall summary): Do not give up hope on this team. We made a critical offensive adjustments last night, followed by an in-game defensive adjustment that caused us to outscore them by nearly 20 in the 2nd half. We have struggled in the early going, but we are a 3-pointer and a free throw away from being 6-1. Many negative people will just point out how we don't do this or that so we suck. Well, it's a real thing that we have 3 true Freshman playing significant minutes. In basketball, players have specific roles and they're trying to figure those roles out. Oh, and our team leader/best shooter is out along with our best low post player (outside of the Chosen One). They have taken early lumps, but adversity is a very good thing in the long run. We still have some difficult games, but I predict at some point this team will go on a 5-6 game stretch in the SEC where they're unstoppable.
I worked for Brady, was there for Trent, have maybe missed single digit home games since '02. Give me an 81-80 game over a 60-59 game any day of the damn week. Thank you Johnny for making LSU basketball relevant again
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:43 pm to LSUButt
Look, I coached college basketball at the D1 level for 9 years, and I'm telling you, the guy isn't good.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:44 pm to sicboy
Butt...Butt...Butt...He sucks
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:45 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Look, I coached college basketball at the D1 level for 9 years, and I'm telling you, the guy isn't good
Can't figure out that bench press, but you can break a 2-3 zone
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:46 pm to MeauxMoney
I put a section for the TLDR crowd
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:52 pm to SabiDojo
I was just messing around. I just remembered because I read basically that whole thread and was taking notes
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:56 pm to LSUButt
I want Jones to do well, I really do. I enjoy college basketball and it makes it that much better when LSU is doing well.
I just don't think he is a good coach. I think alot can be said that he was at North Texas for 11 years and no other good sized program came after him.
If they don't make the NCAA this year (I still think they will get everything together and make it) he needs to be shown the door.
I just don't think he is a good coach. I think alot can be said that he was at North Texas for 11 years and no other good sized program came after him.
If they don't make the NCAA this year (I still think they will get everything together and make it) he needs to be shown the door.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:02 pm to LSUButt
quote:
Give me an 81-80 game over a 60-59 game any day of the damn week. Thank you Johnny for making LSU basketball relevant again
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:03 pm to LasVegasTiger
quote:
If they don't make the NCAA this year (I still think they will get everything together and make it) he needs to be shown the door
I would agree with that.
I'm also hearing my OP was a wall of text. I'm not sure why, because I am on a computer and using spacing and separating paragraphs
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:05 pm to LSUButt
quote:
Well, it's a real thing that we have 3 true Freshman playing significant minutes.
The youth angle. It just never changes around here.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:11 pm to c on z
quote:
The youth angle. It just never changes around here.
That's a real thing, podnuh. If you can't look at Sampson and Blakeney and say "those dudes are making freshman mistakes" then you just don't know shite. Analysts and coaches ALWAYS talk about experience, leadership, veterans. People want to use all the one and dones from UK and Duke as examples. We have 1 one and done and he's amazing. Blakeney and Sampson are Freshmen. TQ is just a tad better now than he was as a Freshman...so did youth play no part? Martin as a Sophomore>>Freshman..what's that reasoning? I don't understand why everyone acts like being a Freshman doesn't matter at all
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:11 pm to LSUButt
quote:
Johnny Jones Appreciation Thread
Before anyone reads this (or doesn't), I would like to tell you, it will be long, and it will be quite positive...so people off the pain train, stop reading now. With that said...here we go:
I'm making this thread because of the seemingly overwhelming disdain most have for this man. People talk about his lack of passion, leadership, ability to coach, etc etc.
Well, many of you have not cared or do not care about basketball...until this year. I've seen SO MANY posts talking about "I never get excited for basketball, but I did this year and they let me down." Do you know why you were excited? Because of Benny. His godfather is here...who exactly hired his godfather? It's easy to say why Simmons is here, yet, nobody has given Jones any praises of the fact that he had the foresight to hire DP in the first place. But let's take Simmons and Blakeney out of the question. He has still brought in loads of talent that have made us a competitive force to be reckon with in the SEC. Each year he gets a transfer from a different school, or brings in a nice mixture of talent and program guys. It's because he has a passion and caring for the players. He doesn't jump up and down and look like he's constipated so he "doesn't care". The guy is constantly talking and working officials, trying to sway calls, showing emotion...most just watch it on TV so say that for no damn reason and it's getting old.
While staying on tourney appearances, we still have a great chance to go again this year. Since 1992, we have only been to back-to-back NCAA tournies once...that was in '05-'06. So there is a strong possibility that CJJ will have inherited a very average team, and each year improved upon that team. We can sit here and say "Yea, but that's because Ben is here." Or "Yea, he had Mickey and Martin."...great, he's the coach and got those guys.
Everybody has flaws. The Coach K, Tom Izzo, Self, Donovan, etc's of the world are few and far between. Many coaches can coach, but suck at connecting with players. Some are great at recruiting but suck with X's and O's. Jones is not without his downfalls. Our lack of rebounding and continuous defensive mishaps are frustrating to say the least. But scoring fast, playing uptempo...that's a philosophy and a style of play. It's literally no different than holding the ball, running methodical stuff, then trying to score with 5 on the shot clock and play tough D. It is all about preference as a coach.
Building on that, I'm so tired of the complaints about what this team does or does not do, specifically CJJ. For instance, we have shot too many 3's. Well, we have shooters, that's what they do. We try to score quickly and keep the pressure on the other team. Many, many shots have been very good and wide open shots. I can think of 3 specifically last night that were WIDE open, but if the other team simply won't guard you, you gotta take the shot. The problem at Charleston is that we weren't aggressive. So what did Johnny Jones do? He put Ben in the post, ran the offense through him, and we only shot 12 3-pointers. Does Jones get no credit for that? Or how about when Beech was hitting 3's from the U and they were up 15...and we came out in the 2nd half and immediately changed the entire way we played defense and destroyed their lead and forced them to call a timeout. Does Jones get credit for any adjustments he makes ever, or just when he doesn't make an adjustment we crucify him?
TL;DR Crowd (and overall summary): Do not give up hope on this team. We made a critical offensive adjustments last night, followed by an in-game defensive adjustment that caused us to outscore them by nearly 20 in the 2nd half. We have struggled in the early going, but we are a 3-pointer and a free throw away from being 6-1. Many negative people will just point out how we don't do this or that so we suck. Well, it's a real thing that we have 3 true Freshman playing significant minutes. In basketball, players have specific roles and they're trying to figure those roles out. Oh, and our team leader/best shooter is out along with our best low post player (outside of the Chosen One). They have taken early lumps, but adversity is a very good thing in the long run. We still have some difficult games, but I predict at some point this team will go on a 5-6 game stretch in the SEC where they're unstoppable.
I worked for Brady, was there for Trent, have maybe missed single digit home games since '02. Give me an 81-80 game over a 60-59 game any day of the damn week. Thank you Johnny for making LSU basketball relevant again
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:12 pm to LSUButt
The sunshine, it's too damn bright!
I hope you aren't that attached to CJJ
I hope you aren't that attached to CJJ
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:13 pm to LSUButt
You fool.....this is college basketball, almost all teams are "young".
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:17 pm to LSUButt
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The youth angle. It just never changes around here.
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That's a real thing, podnuh.
Not in basketball. True freshman play, and can dominate, the college game. It's much different than football.
The youth excuse don't fly in basketball.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 3:18 pm to TJG210
All teams are not young...fool
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