- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
On the discussion about recruiting players...here are some tid bits from 11-15
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:15 pm
Looked at all of the LB and D line recruits we got. I think this will tell you why we are here.
2011
Mickey Johnson DT-no longer with team
Anthony Johnson DT-left in 2013 to NFL-most consider underperformed
Trevon Randle LB-no longer with team
Jemaruia Rasco DE-most consider he underperformed
Quintin Thomas DT-injury plagued career still at LSU
2012
Kwon Alexander LB-left in 2014 to NFL
Ronnie Fiest LB-backup LB
Trey Granier LB-no longer with team
Danielle Hunter DE-left in 2014 to NFL
Deion Jones LB-starting LB
Lamar Louis LB-backup LB
Lorenzo Phillips LB-no longer with team
2013
Maquedius Bain DT-no longer with team
Kendell Beckwith LB-starting LB
Tashawn Bower DE-starting DE
Greg Gilmore DT-backup DT
Frank Herron DE-backup DT
Melvin Jones LB-no longer with team
Christian LaCouture DT-starting DT
Lewis Neal DE-starting DE
Michael Patterson DE-backup DE
Duke Riley LB-backup LB
2014
Donnie Alexander LB-backup LB
Deondre Clark DE-backup DE
Clifton Garrett LB-no longer with team
Davon Godchaux DL-starting DT
Trey Lealaimatafao DT-no longer with team
Sione Teuhema DE-backup DE
Travonte Valentine DT-no longer with team
2015
Arden Key DE-backup DE
Isaiah Washington DE-backup DE
So in my count 9 of the above are no longer with the team, for whatever reason. Johnson, Thomas, Feist, Patterson, Alexander, Clark, Teuhema have not contributed much. So that is 16 players out of 31 have not done much. Not bashing the players, but just to point out all of the misses. I don't know the Bama players like LSU, so can't compare, but I would imagine it is not as bad.
No am not bamacessed. Just food for thought on our troubles on defense.
Chavis is to blame, but so is Miles. I know you won't bat 1000, but over 50% failure is not good and can't compete in elite status.
2011
Mickey Johnson DT-no longer with team
Anthony Johnson DT-left in 2013 to NFL-most consider underperformed
Trevon Randle LB-no longer with team
Jemaruia Rasco DE-most consider he underperformed
Quintin Thomas DT-injury plagued career still at LSU
2012
Kwon Alexander LB-left in 2014 to NFL
Ronnie Fiest LB-backup LB
Trey Granier LB-no longer with team
Danielle Hunter DE-left in 2014 to NFL
Deion Jones LB-starting LB
Lamar Louis LB-backup LB
Lorenzo Phillips LB-no longer with team
2013
Maquedius Bain DT-no longer with team
Kendell Beckwith LB-starting LB
Tashawn Bower DE-starting DE
Greg Gilmore DT-backup DT
Frank Herron DE-backup DT
Melvin Jones LB-no longer with team
Christian LaCouture DT-starting DT
Lewis Neal DE-starting DE
Michael Patterson DE-backup DE
Duke Riley LB-backup LB
2014
Donnie Alexander LB-backup LB
Deondre Clark DE-backup DE
Clifton Garrett LB-no longer with team
Davon Godchaux DL-starting DT
Trey Lealaimatafao DT-no longer with team
Sione Teuhema DE-backup DE
Travonte Valentine DT-no longer with team
2015
Arden Key DE-backup DE
Isaiah Washington DE-backup DE
So in my count 9 of the above are no longer with the team, for whatever reason. Johnson, Thomas, Feist, Patterson, Alexander, Clark, Teuhema have not contributed much. So that is 16 players out of 31 have not done much. Not bashing the players, but just to point out all of the misses. I don't know the Bama players like LSU, so can't compare, but I would imagine it is not as bad.
No am not bamacessed. Just food for thought on our troubles on defense.
Chavis is to blame, but so is Miles. I know you won't bat 1000, but over 50% failure is not good and can't compete in elite status.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:18 pm to Weaver
quote:
Chavis is to blame, but so is Miles
Remind me again, how much recruiting did Chavis do?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:19 pm to Weaver
Miles lets his defensive staff do their thing and I agree that he should've taken control of the defensive recruiting when Chavis and Haley obviously weren't doing things right.
I think Miles trusts Steele to handle all of the defensive recruiting and it was the main reason he wanted Steele.
I think Miles trusts Steele to handle all of the defensive recruiting and it was the main reason he wanted Steele.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:19 pm to O
quote:
Remind me again, how much recruiting did Chavis do
Not much, but shouldn't he have input if he is the guy coaching them? Chavis can't take a pass just because he didn't like to recruit.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:21 pm to Weaver
quote:
So in my count 9 of the above are no longer with the team, for whatever reason.
I said this the other day that players leaving for whatever reason has hurt us a lot.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:25 pm to Weaver
quote:
Not much, but shouldn't he have input if he is the guy coaching them? Chavis can't take a pass just because he didn't like to recruit.
That's the point I am making. Having a defensive coordinator that doesn't actively recruit players is a recipe for disaster.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:28 pm to Weaver
so over 5 years...
This is some great info and all but it really is meaningless unless you show how it compares to other schools over the same time frame. There will always be attrition for one reason or another. I just can't tell without more data if this is average, below, or above what other schools face.
quote:
9 of the above are no longer with the team
quote:
Johnson, Thomas, Feist, Patterson, Alexander, Clark, Teuhema have not contributed much
quote:
So that is 16 players out of 31 have not done much.
This is some great info and all but it really is meaningless unless you show how it compares to other schools over the same time frame. There will always be attrition for one reason or another. I just can't tell without more data if this is average, below, or above what other schools face.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:32 pm to Topwater Trout
I wouldn't say it's meaningless because the proof is on the field. Our defense is gassed.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:32 pm to Topwater Trout
That may be true but that explains our issues with depth.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:33 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
I wouldn't say it's meaningless because the proof is on the field. Our defense is gassed.
If that is an average attrition rate it is.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:35 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
If that is an average attrition rate it is.
I would doubt 50% is average.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:36 pm to Weaver
quote:
That may be true but that explains our issues with depth.
and maybe its way above average. Idk I just think without comparing to other teams we don't know. I do believe recruiting 17 yr olds to play major D1 football is a crap shoot
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:39 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:I know we just played a team that rotated 14 players on the front 7 who were mostly seniors and juniors.
I just think without comparing to other teams we don't know.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:43 pm to sjmabry
well whether it is average attrition rate or above average just the raw numbers of recruits at those positions are way low.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:47 pm to Weaver
quote:
I would doubt 50% is average.
Injuries, grades, and guys transferring for playing time at smaller schools.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:57 pm to sjmabry
symabry, they rotated more than 14 my friend on less than 50 plays. Kind of similar to LSU in 2010 and 2011. Bama had more rushing plays than LSU had total plays. Enough said really.
No doubt, LSU has little quality depth on defense and it has shown all year. First half vs second half has almost been constant in every game this year.
No doubt, LSU has little quality depth on defense and it has shown all year. First half vs second half has almost been constant in every game this year.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:57 pm to sjmabry
Hopefully a balance in recruiting position groups each year can start within a year or two to avoid what has happened in the past and what has to occur this year and maybe next.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:01 pm to Weaver
quote:
Chavis is to blame
Miles should get rid of this guy. But wait....
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:12 pm to NotRight37
quote:Not just balance, but those with height/weight component to match.
Hopefully a balance in recruiting position groups each year can start within a year or two to avoid what has happened in the past and what has to occur this year and maybe next.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:25 pm to NotRight37
quote:
Hopefully a balance in recruiting position groups each year can start within a year or two to avoid what has happened in the past and what has to occur this year and maybe next.
How is Chavis to blame for this?
Wouldn't the head coach and recruiting coordinator get with the entire staff and formulate a plan each year of what positions to recruit based on need?
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News