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LSU is putrid in Red Zone Defense

Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:27 pm
Very disappointing numbers from any vantage point. What is making us so bad? Obviously, the scheme that allows the flats to be wide open has killed us in multiple games down there (think State, Syracuse, EMU). Something needs to change. LSU has to get better about limiting damage down the stretch to stay successful.

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Bright spot, LSU has given up the least amount of attempts in the red zone in the conference this year. Obviously, it is a great sign that people struggle to get to the red area against us.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33949 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:29 pm to
Are special teams causing a lot of short fields to blame?
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9395 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:33 pm to
It's not a particularly helpful stat because it doesn't take into account how many trips in the redzone we had to defend. If we allow one drive a game in the redzone and they get a TD, we are at 100% and it looks bad even though they only got there once.

Michigan has arguably the best defense in the nation right now and their redzone TD defense is ranked in the 100s nationally just like us, so I'm ok with that.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

therick711


atta boy.....stay true to form kid. Don't change your MO now....

Let's don't look at the big picture....let's focus on anything negative you can find.

It's funny, and I admit I'm a glass half full type guy....but here's what I see on this:

I see a team that has limited its opponent's trips to the red zone. In fact, LSU is second overall in giving up red zone scores....having given up 16 scores compared to bama's 15.......

I also understand that there has been some confusion with new people in the secondary, and that the return of Mills will hopefully help to reduce some of the confusion there.

Again....LSU has allowed only one more score in the red zone than Bama......but rather than point out that positive (which means LSU has a pretty damn stingy defense in the number of attempts that teams get in the red zone) you focus on the negative.

What a truly solid poster you continue to be on this site.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5575 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:34 pm to
Two fewer scores would put LSU in the middle of the SEC. Just three fewer scores would put LSU in the top 3. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Bright spot, LSU has given up the least amount of attempts in the red zone in the conference this year. Obviously, it is a great sign that people struggle to get to the red area against us.



awwww...nice edit...after your knee-jerk over-reaction.....the bigger picture finally occurred to you. You are getting there kid....keep plugging away.






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Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19755 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:42 pm to
They are not as bad as the stats suggest.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to
Sample size

Garbage time tds
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to
the numbers tell the story. Receivers running completely free is the main problem. The secondary is very often confused about coverage assignments. Plain and simple. They do not know who to cover.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5539 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:51 pm to
Couple of things to consider.

17 RZ attempts is really good.

14 TD's in those 17 attempts is not good. Against better teams holding them to FG's rather than TD's will be key.

LSU's D has had pluses and minuses this year. Pressure on
QB had been pretty good. Getting off the field on 3rd down has been pretty good. The coverage busts in the passing game have been way too frequent.

Shore up the busts, stiffen up in RZ and force more FG's this D has chance to be very very good.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18966 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:55 pm to
Good thing Alabama's offense has had their own issues in the redzone so far this year.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2260 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:59 pm to
The poor TD:FG ratio is partly because LSU's offense is so good that the redzone is 4 down territory for opponents.

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 3 TDs that came after fourth down conversions in the redzone that might have otherwise been FGs. And 3+ out of 17 is a large enough % to skew things.
Posted by ps101
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2005
2194 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:20 pm to
Send this information to Les Miles. He doesn't have a clue.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:22 pm to
If our secondary is this weak with all this talent, I'm kind of worried about Steele with that group moving forward.
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