re: Waco Update: Last Biker Finally Being Released (Update in OP)

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Or so the poem goes. People need to wake up. The government is out of control. They will not stop coming after people in this country. It is a beast that must e

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Fact

Cameo
Tina Marie
Carl Carlton

I was there!

I ran for the sound stage and climbed scaffolding.
Wish I could have seen my face when I turned around and saw so many people charging at me. Sounded like a large herd of elephant.

Did they ever say how many bikers were armed with guns? Once they started shooting at each other, the police are obligated to put any potential threat down. They wouldn't have to be pointing weapons at the police. So I don't get the difference in where they were pointing their guns..

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No one overreached.

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Shooting into a crowd, wounding 40 and killing nine, then arresting everyone within eyesight, even if they showed up later, is not overreacting?

Arrested and held, basically without bond, when there may, or may not have been any evidence of an individuals wrongdoing is not overreacting?

How many firearms were in the crowd? Not in a car or truck but on someone's person? One person shot and the floodgates opened.

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So tell me... What are the chances of defiant participants turning their weapons on those they protest?

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What are the chances of someone with a sidearm, at a distance, attacking a crowd of police with military grade assault rifles? This while they are fighting in a crowd? Slim to none.

No. My argument is

We have reason to believe this meeting may escalate to a point where mass violence may erupt in a public place. As a result of this intelligence, we are asking ALL PARTIES, including Twin Peaks, to cancel the pending event. It is not our intention to detain anyone, however, your reluctance to avoid this dangerous situation will be viewed as an act to incite a riot. It is my responsibility to our citizens to squash any attempts to promote any type of unlawful behavior, by force if necessary.

Mr Cossack. Do you understand the problems we are presenting to you and asking for your cooperation with?

Mr Bandido. Do you understand the problems we are presenting to you and asking for your cooperation with?

F U!! We are gonna do it any way.

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No one overreached. The police ask for the meeting to be canceled. The gangs openly defied the authorities and held the meeting. Coincidence the predicted outcome became reality?

So tell me... What are the chances of defiant participants turning their weapons on those they protest?

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The Cossacks was infiltrated by multiple uncover police officers and confidential informants. The confrontation with the Bandidos at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco was instigated by undercover police officers. Most Cossacks, Scimitars and members of a sport bike club called the Bogatyrs who were at the restaurant had no idea of what was about to happen. At least two undercover police officers and two confidential informants were among the Cossacks at the shootout and the presence of at least the undercover officers was known to uniformed police officers on scene. Immediately after the shooting, the two undercover officers removed their Cossacks insignia and put on police windbreakers and balaclavas. Two confidential informants were quietly let out of their jail cells that night. The Aging Rebel believes that the source for a Washington Post account of the Twin Peaks Massacre was a confidential informant. One Cossack who helped organize the Cossack pack is police officer known in the club as “Big O.”

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TIFWIW

Just passed it.
Place is shut the F down.

Not even the sign remains.

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Thanks for posting Darth. The GQ article is well written and informative.

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Thanks. And you're right, it was a good article.

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These biker gangs...sorry, motorcycle clubs...are some stand-up, classy folk:

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Anonymous Cossack #1: A group of seven Bandidos rolled up on bikes, furious that we were parking up front. They hit one of our prospects, an older guy—ran over his foot.

Reginald Weathers (Bandidos, from court testimony at his bail hearing): My president and vice president tried to back in, and immediately the Cossacks on the porch came out and started pushing their bikes [away], saying they couldn't park there. [Cossacks] kept coming off the patio, over the fence—60 to 100 guys. They were yelling at my president [and] my vice president.

Glenn (from his affidavit): Several of the Cossacks pulled their weapons, including handguns.


I love that gangs are claiming parking lot space as their "territory". It's just a bunch of immature grown men creating a need to feel important.

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This may surprise some here considering I wear a three piece patch myself... But I agree with you. These petty "biker wars" over who can or cannot be a a club or wear this or that patch, are asinine. They serve no good purpose and only serve to ruin peoples lives. To put it bluntly, this is not the 60's & 70's any longer. Clubs are going to have to wake up to the fact that in today's world, there cannot be any winners in a biker war, only losers. Either we all learn to live together and settle our differences in a civilized manner, or before it's all said and done the Feds will crush us all.