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re: Waco Update: Last Biker Finally Being Released (Update in OP)
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:28 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:28 pm to Darth_Vader
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The funny thing is that I was not even planning to go to the Confederation of Clubs meeting at Twin Peaks on May 17, 2015.
Can we copy and paste this for every person who will be testifying?
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:29 pm to Crow Pie
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I have no dog in this fight but if something about this whole matter doesn't seem right...then somethings not right. The truth is we have outlaw biker gang and a out of control police force and I wouldnt trust either one if my freedom/life depended on it.
Its not like the "authority in Waco" , right or wrong, hasnt already trampled on other's rights before.
True. And I also want to point out that while there were some "1%er's" there, they were a minority. Most of the people there were either independents or members of non-1%er clubs. But even having said that, there's no law against being a member of a 1%er club. Sure there are plenty of 1%ers who are criminals, but there's also plenty of 1%er's who are not. You cannot arrest someone just because they wear a patch. For those who personally were doing something illegal, arrest and charge them. Otherwise, let them go.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:31 pm to Darth_Vader
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I agree 100%. Everyone who took part in the fight should have been arrested and charged. I've said this time and again on here. What I take issue with are these two things...
1. The fact they wholesale rounded up everyone there, arrested, them, and put serious felony charges and massive bails on their heads. People have had their lives ruined. People have lost their jobs, their homes, even custody of their kids. All this despite the fact there's overwhelming evidence pointing to the innocence of most everyone that was arrested.
2. The cover-up of the ballistics evidence from the scene of who was killed by who. What little has been leaked out points to the cops doing most of the killing. And the whole police story of "the bikers opened fire on us" is complete bullshite. If you're in a fight with a large group of guys and they're shooting at you, are you going to stop what you're doing and start shooting at some cops? Come on.
We cannot know for sure what happened but logic says that there was a fight in the Win Peaks parking lot, someone pulled a gun and shot someone in the fight, and that's when the cops (who just so happened to already have the place surrounded with massive firepower including a SWAT team) opened fire on the crowd.
Keep on keeping us updated on this.
It's stunning to me how blind some here are to how fricked up this entire situation is.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:31 pm to Dr RC
How many lives were saved by stepping in before the real violence broken? Have they estimated that yet?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:31 pm to Crow Pie
Being a Waco native, this whole thing is so screwed up. My stepdad was a former (now retired) Texas Ranger/US Marshall in the area and honestly has told me that if the police and judicial individuals involved in this get away with it then it will likely be one of the biggest police frick ups ever.
Now he says that without knowing many of the details. He likely knows more than the general public, but it's not like he was there that day and I doubt he's being told much of the more important stuff that's being withheld from the public as well. I work in the media so he doesn't tell me everything.
As much as I'm for the whole, "Don't join a gang if you don't want to be persecuted like a member", I think at least a vast majority of these people are getting screwed.
Now he says that without knowing many of the details. He likely knows more than the general public, but it's not like he was there that day and I doubt he's being told much of the more important stuff that's being withheld from the public as well. I work in the media so he doesn't tell me everything.
As much as I'm for the whole, "Don't join a gang if you don't want to be persecuted like a member", I think at least a vast majority of these people are getting screwed.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:31 pm to Darth_Vader
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And it's looking more and more like it was the cops who shot and killed most, if not all, of those who were shot that day. Bottom line, this was a police massacre
This is where you're losing people Darth. I agree it's some dirty stuff going on and it's looking like the police are responsible for some of the deaths of bystanders. That's a reach from assuming it was a massacre where the police killed them all.
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the corrupt system in Waco is doing everything they can to cover it up to save their own asses, including ruining the lives of almost 200 innocent people.
Stick to these points, they are bad enough.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:32 pm to Darth_Vader
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Waco police are responsible for shooting dozens of people, killing several in the process, many of which were not even armed?
Well when you play with fire you're going to get burned.,
If they started shooting at each other and the cops didnt know where the shots were coming from or where they were pointed, then the cops had no other choice but than to return fire.
Yes a lot of innocent unarmed people were shot and some killed, however thats collateral damage and I dont feel one bit of sorry for them.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:32 pm to Dr RC
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Keep on keeping us updated on this.
It's stunning to me how blind some here are to how fricked up this entire situation
Fact.
There's some straight up idiots in here
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:34 pm to roadGator
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How many lives were saved by stepping in before the real violence broken? Have they estimated that yet?
they saved zero lives b/c the cops started shooting before they even knew what was going on.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:34 pm to roadGator
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How many lives were saved by stepping in before the real violence broken? Have they estimated that yet?
exactly. The cops couldn't jsut sit there and let these TPOS biker gangs shoot up the whole place. They had to stop put a stop to it and a a few gangsters lost their lives but them doing so, then oh well.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:38 pm to Langston
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This is where you're losing people Darth. I agree it's some dirty stuff going on and it's looking like the police are responsible for some of the deaths of bystanders. That's a reach from assuming it was a massacre where the police killed them all.
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They do not….disprove the notion that all, or at least most of the dead men were killed by police using M-16s and FN P90 machine guns.
Thirteen of sixteen entrance wounds were .25 inches in diameter or smaller.
FN P90s fire a round with a diameter of .224409 inches. M-16s fire slightly smaller rounds with diameters of 0.218898 inches. All but one of the victims had wounds fired from a downward trajectory. Six of the nine dead had head or neck wounds. None of the wounds contained gunshot residue which indicates that the shots were fired from at least three feet away and probably five feet or farther away. The absence of residue casts doubt on claims by prosecutors of “Bandidos executing Cossacks, and Cossacks executing Bandidos.” Two of the dead had large wounds consistent with a 12 gauge shotgun slug. Ten of 16 wounds were in the back, indicating that the victims were running away when they died. Seven of the wounds were fired from right to left. Six were fired from left to right.
Nine millimeter bullets have a diameter of 0.35433 inches; forty caliber handguns fire a bullet that is four tenths of an inch in diameter and 357 magnums fire rounds that are about .357 inches in diameter…
Most of the recovered bullets were either highly deformed or fragmented which indicates they were fired by high velocity …..
Most police ammunition in the United States is designed to penetrate a human body to a depth of 12 inches and for that reason that ammunition is usually copper jacketed. Most of the bullets that killed at the Twin Peaks were copper jacketed….
Make your own conclusions. To me it looks like the vast majority of the shooting came from the cops and it was directed at people trying to run out of a kill zone.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:39 pm to Darth_Vader
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Desgraciados
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:39 pm to Darth_Vader
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irregardless
frick.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:41 pm to McCaigBro69
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Being a Waco native, this whole thing is so screwed up. My stepdad was a former (now retired) Texas Ranger/US Marshall in the area and honestly has told me that if the police and judicial individuals involved in this get away with it then it will likely be one of the biggest police frick ups ever.
And that's why somewhere over 100 innocent people have had their constitutional rights mocked and their lives ruined... all to save the City of Waco from having to face their share of the responsibility for what happened that day. This is nothing more than CYA.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:42 pm to USMCTiger03
Better?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:42 pm to Darth_Vader
Darth,
If this same type of event happened at a black panther rally at Hooters, would you still have the same passion as you do for these criminals biker gangs?
If this same type of event happened at a black panther rally at Hooters, would you still have the same passion as you do for these criminals biker gangs?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:44 pm to Darth_Vader
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. Bottom line, this was a police massacre
This is exactly what happened.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:44 pm to tgrbaitn08
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black panther
and bikers = dindu nuffins
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:45 pm to terd ferguson
Darth is about as close to being a black panther as he is being a biker
Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:47 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Darth is about as close to being a black panther as he is being a biker
I've been a biker since you were little more than a wet spot in your moma's rank panties.
And I've proven it on here more than once.
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