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Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:30 pm to Ebbandflow
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There's no way to know if that's true or not.
Well, looked pretty true to me because, well, they ran 81 plays and got a lot more plays after our offense went uber conservative, didnt score and then ran 26 4th quarter plays (averaged 18 plays per quarter previous to 4th).
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Harris couldve been sacked, thrown a pick or an incomplete pass...stopping the clock.
Or we could have just kept running the offense that got us 3 TDs the first 8 possessions and maybe put the game away instead of giving the ball back to them on 4 straight empty possessions to end the game.
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BTW, miss st was running a hurry up....that's why they got so many plays.
They ran so many plays because our offense was inept the last 1.5 quarters doing nothing and gassing our defense. Maybe you didnt see all the DL with their hands on their hips the whole 4th quarter, but we all did. When they kept getting stop after stop and the offense wouldnt do anything, it doesnt help the defense exactly...
Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:50 pm to thunderbird1100
So much wrong with what you're saying. My point is whether it looks good to you, an observer with little football knowledge, the team had a greater TOP and won vs possibly screwing it up by all of the aforementioned possibilities. You're assuming that LSU would've done well throwing based on an incredibly small sample size. I can reference my own assumptions too but either way you dont really know. Trying to act like you know makes you a fool. Sorry, but the team won without your approval.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:58 pm to Ebbandflow
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You're assuming that LSU would've done well throwing based on an incredibly small sample size.
We did well, so why stop it because we're suddenly afraid (with no pretense) and trying to sit on a 2 score lead with 20+ minutes to play? Maybe you didnt see the part where we had to pray they would miss a FG so we could limp away with a win in the end.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:03 pm to thunderbird1100
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Maybe you didnt see the part where we had to pray they would miss a FG so we could limp away with a win in the end.
A kicker with less than 50 percent success and a long of 40? I really thought he would miss. He did. I would bet miss st fans were more worried considering their kicker isnt good at kicking.
Anyway, road win, first game...lets see what happens next. I woukd wager that he throws a little more from now on, even though we have the best rb in college
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:27 pm to jacktown
IMO, only if he's a starter-type. Otherwise, we are in the running for the elite DT's in the country. Keep winning and we'll land a few.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:29 pm to Ebbandflow
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A kicker with less than 50 percent success and a long of 40? I really thought he would miss. He did. I would bet miss st fans were more worried considering their kicker isnt good at kicking.
Keep in mind they took a delay of game penalty as well. We got lucky, plain and simple. They at least put themselves in position to win after we gave them the opportunity to do so after calling it quits on offense mid-way through the 3rd quarter. I'm not sure Miles drew up the ending like that after we went up 21-6.
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Anyway, road win, first game...lets see what happens next. I woukd wager that he throws a little more from now on, even though we have the best rb in college
Agreed here, we cant beat the better teams throwing the ball 14 times, we BARELY escaped a mediocre at best MSU team trying to play it way too safe.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:30 pm to Ebbandflow
If there are 8+ in the box from early second quarter on you have to throw the ball. And not just screen passes. 5 down the field plays netting 2 big plays would have opened up the middle. Arguing any different is ridiculous.
With that said, I think they wanted to keep Harris confidence up and didn't want to chance anything. While that may be a good thing early, if we are competing for a natty he will have to be trusted.
I also wonder how this will effect potential recruits. Each year we hear it is going to be better.
With that said, I think they wanted to keep Harris confidence up and didn't want to chance anything. While that may be a good thing early, if we are competing for a natty he will have to be trusted.
I also wonder how this will effect potential recruits. Each year we hear it is going to be better.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:48 pm to 0
Maybe last year would have been a good time to recruit a few jucos but you have 2 fr committed already with more on the way.
Losing Bain, Valentine and TreyL definitely took a lot of depth away but Trey L couldn't see the field last year, Valentine was out of shape and would not have been a factor this year and Bain was moved to DE
Losing Bain, Valentine and TreyL definitely took a lot of depth away but Trey L couldn't see the field last year, Valentine was out of shape and would not have been a factor this year and Bain was moved to DE
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:54 pm to jacktown
Depending on who we get committed or signed, we very well may need a backup plan at DT. We need another DG57 type player to come in and play as a freshman. As we are sitting now the DL recruiting needs a big time player to come in. We don't have that commit just yet. Hopefully, Gary, Lawrance or Shavar want to be that guy.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:38 am to thunderbird1100
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We got lucky, plain and simple.
Its not "plain an simple" bc i dont believe the same bullshite that you do. Even without the delay of game, it would've been a 49 yard fg. That kicker sucks and his numbers are terrible. Dak did a masterful job in the 4th and it still wasnt enough.
You cant say we're lucky bc of them commiting a penalty without also saying they're lucky that we had numerous drives killed by penalties. Why is that so effing hard for you one sided negative biotches?
Lucky is a matter of opinion; one i dont subscribe to
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:41 am to Ebbandflow
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Its not "plain an simple"
Yes it is, if he makes it, we lose. It's really that simple. We got lucky Dak fricked up with the delay of game then lucky they flat missed the FG. I didnt say he definitely should have made it, the fact is, when we don't alter a FG at all, it's pure luck on our end whether the kicker makes or misses it.
Or maybe you think Miles wants to play for a MSU FG with time expiring and down 2? We escaped with a win due to conservative coaching, that's really it.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 9:43 am
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:43 am to thunderbird1100
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Maybe you didnt see the part where we had to pray they would miss a FG so we could limp away with a win in the end.
Uh, winners dont limp away. That's what happens when you lose.
I wasnt praying. That kicker is beyong terrible with a 40yd career long.
It got a little too close but Dak was masterful, lsu on the road, loud stadium, first game...etc. still won
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:46 am to Ebbandflow
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It got a little too close
At least you can finally admit it
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:47 am to thunderbird1100
Im trying here but you're being obtuse. YOU CANNOT CLAIM WE'RE LUCKY THAT THEY COMMITED A PENALTY WHEN WE HAD TWO TD DRIVES TAKEN AWAY FROM PENALTIES AND NUMEROUS FIRST DOWN TAKEN FROM US. BY THAT SAME LOGIC, THEY WOULD ALSO BE LUCKY. does that register? Or do you think our penalties were our ineptitude and their penalties are divine magic called "luck"
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:53 am to thunderbird1100
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least you can finally admit it
If thats all it takes for the whiny group to stfu, i will gladly say it got too close.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:10 am to Ebbandflow
It is luck when another team flat misses a FG. I'm not sure what's wrong in this assessment. It's 100% true.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:33 am to thunderbird1100
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100% true
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is luck
Does not compute. Its that player's lack of skill, not divine magic dude. You havevto be smarter than this. He missed the fg bc he is a terrible kicker and 54 yds is too long for him...so would 49 be. He sucks. It isnt bc of some magical lucky LSU thing...its that the kicker sucks. Get it? Jesus
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:41 am to Ebbandflow
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not divine magic dude
Didnt say it was divine magic, it's luck.
If they have a decent opportunity to win the game on a final play we didnt matter on, it's luck we walk away with the win at that point. Doesn't have to be a 80% chance, could be a 20% chance. If he hits that kick 1 out of 5 times, that's still us getting lucky in the end we hit the 80% miss, especially after what happened previous to that. Dont know why you cant admit due to coaching and the final penalty, we were lucky to walk away with a W in that game.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:47 am to thunderbird1100
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It is luck when another team flat misses a FG.
Only if the guy kicking has an established track record of nailing that FG. The guy the other night had never hit one longer than 46 yards. That's not luck. It would have been luck if he'd made it.
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