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DAT 9/1: YFPHA vs Mariners

Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:13 am
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17996 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:13 am
Feldman vs Elias

7:10 first pitch
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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103158 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:15 am to
Hommana hommana...and onanon.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:22 am to
What a boring opening post for today's DAT.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:26 am to
quote:

"I've been misquoted on Keuchel a lot. Listen, he doesn't have overpowering stuff, but he knows how to pitch. He uses his arsenal very well. He's in and out, up and down, changes speeds. He's pretty good." -- Mariners manager Lloyd McClendon.



I am sure it was discussed last night but can you believe this guy. What a dick. He is damn good. He said pretty good for a specific reason in my book.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:28 am to
Little league Lloyd about to be relieved of his duties on the next week or two. Lulz
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76702 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:42 am to
LOLloyd
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:43 am to
Reading up about Tyler White working on catching in the Winter. He played catcher in high school, but hasn't done it since (played 1st & 3rd in college). Before he was drafted, he was contacted by the Giants and they told him they were interested in drafting him and would consider switching him back to catcher if they did.

So apparently it isn't just an out of the blue suggestion by JL to try him back at catcher. But considering he is going to be a 25 year old prospect sometime next season and hasn't played catcher in probably 7-8 years, I can't imagine how difficult that process will be. Learning to play 1st base or LF is one thing. Learning to receive balls as a catcher and call games is another. We'll see...

Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England, but from TX
Member since Dec 2003
4892 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:45 am to


Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:45 am to
you'd think he would learn his lesson after we have bitch slapped the mariners all year, especially in Houston.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9546 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:49 am to
The elusive 15 will be captured tonight
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:59 am to
If the kid wants it bad enough he can make it. Literally work every single day on fielding and and calling games.his arm won't be any worse than congers. Probably better.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28149 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:25 am to
I think defensive catchers are pretty underrated. I won't pretend to know the ins and outs of calling a game, but it seems crucial and having a catcher than can limit baserunners is obviously important. And Fivethirtyeight just did a writeup on how valuable Posey is with his ability to frame (so much so that the article is basically making a claim that he might be the MVP).

Not sure I would compare him to Conger when the context is certainly a long term view, and it's hard to imagine him getting in in 2016 anyway. Conger's a pretty shitty baseline since he's a stopgap/backup catcher that is an okay hitter. If he shows signs of promise that would be great, but would hate to see us build a team around the concept of him being a Catcher for the long haul if it's not the optimal move.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 9:29 am
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:23 am to
SPeaking of framing. That was congers big asset. His best "tool". I have liked conger as a backup catcher but I haven't noticed this at all.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60221 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:25 am to
It obviously means they don't see him having much of a future at 1B, perhaps because they don't think his bat can play there

This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 10:26 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60221 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:27 am to
It's tough to notice when watching a game. I haven't looked them up to see how good he's been this year but sites like fangraphs compile data on it
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103158 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:27 am to
I really hope baseball does the right thing and moves to automated balls and strikes...that would eliminate the BS framing concept...speed up games and cause less ejection and arguments.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:41 am to
I am in the middle on that. I would like a perfect ball strike call but I really like and enjoy the human aspect.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76702 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 11:00 am to
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the human aspect


People who aren't actually playing the game influencing and even affecting the outcome of it through their own mistakes and biases.

Among all the traditionalists' arguments to preserve the game, saving home plate umpire error/undue influence is the worst one IMO.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23581 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 11:11 am to
I may switch it up, haven't sat here in a while.


Posted by Big Floppy TDs
Where the beer flows like wine
Member since Sep 2012
2910 posts
Posted on 9/1/15 at 11:12 am to
For anyone wanting to see the game tonight, Astros just posted a flash sale for $20 bullpen seats
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