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re: The ATL thread: Braves vs. the hackers
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:14 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:14 pm to WestCoastAg
I don't think either team would do the deal but value wise I don't think it's too far fetched.
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Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:15 pm to WestCoastAg
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And we just aren't going to trade Seager for anyone not named Mike trout or bryce harper either
overvalue your own prospects much?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:15 pm to SwampDonks
Uhh no, it's been reported all over that we just aren't going to trade corey
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:16 pm to K9
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would be dumb
We have to get some decent hitting from somewhere, and there is nothing great to speak of on the FA market hittingwise. Otherwise it's not going to matter how good our pitching is.
Beyond that, with all the young pitching we have coming up there isn't room for both in the rotation long term anyway. And Julio is having a bad year and is a shoulder injury waiting to happen.
I'd like to see us keep Wood, I think he and Miller will make a nice 1/2 punch for us going forward.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:17 pm to volfan30
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I don't think either team would do the deal but value wise I don't think it's too far fetched.
Pretty much, neither team would be likely to do the deal, but it'd be around fair value.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:17 pm to volfan30
You guys would probably be giving up more value because corey is still unknown
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:20 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah just strictly hypothetical. It was just a fan coming up with something. It would never happen.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:22 pm to SwampDonks
let's remember, he's still in AAA, while a 65 year old SS, hitting .209 starts every night.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:22 pm to WestCoastAg
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And we just aren't going to trade Seager for anyone not named Mike trout or bryce harper either
This is nonsense.
You think Friedman would say no if the White Sox called and offered Sale for Seager?
Even as highly as the Dodgers seem to be valuing Seager and Urias claiming that Trout and Harper are the only guys that could get the job done is silly.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:24 pm to volfan30
Sure, but I ask think sale is on that level in value
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:24 pm to auyushu
There are some decent options in free agency after next year but after this year is pretty bare. I do think with the depth we have it's more likely we get s couple hitters in trades.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:25 pm to auyushu
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Beyond that, with all the young pitching we have coming up there isn't room for both in the rotation long term anyway. And Julio is having a bad year and is a shoulder injury waiting to happen.
so you want to trade two guys that have proven they can get it done in the majors for a bat? Julio is having a subpar year on the road but his home numbers arent bad at all, and he is improving in general from his rough start. i would be okay with packaging some of the young arms we have acquired for a bat, but at the same time, arent we gonna have a lot of money to spend in FA to find a bat? feel like were going with the ole school, grow your pitchers and buy your hitters philosophy
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:34 pm to K9
I think in today's free agent climate controllable bats are more valuable than controllable arms.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:42 pm to K9
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so you want to trade two guys that have proven they can get it done in the majors for a bat? i would be okay with packaging some of the young arms we have acquired for a bat, but at the same time, arent we gonna have a lot of money to spend in FA to find a bat? feel like were going with the ole school, grow your pitchers and buy your hitters philosophy
Who said trade two guys? I definitely would only trade Julio or Wood, not both.
The issue is that old school philosophy really doesn't work all that well anymore. Good hitters rarely make it to free agency these days, and if they do it's because they are on the wrong side of 30 or have major issues. The only bats coming up up this offseason that are worth anything are Heyward, Upton, and Yoenis Cespedes, and I wouldn't want to touch any of those guys for the money they are going to get.
And the young pitchers we just got are a perfect example of what we could trade them for, guys like Heyward and Upton that are in their last year or two before free agency. We'd have to give something up of real value in order to get a legit bat that we'd have under control for a few years. Hence I see us trading Julio or Wood.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:44 pm to volfan30
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I think in today's free agent climate controllable bats are more valuable than controllable arms.
Far more valuable, you can just look at the return the A's got back for Kazmir as an example of that. And that's why the Dodgers aren't willing to move Seager.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:44 pm to SwampDonks
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There are some decent options in free agency after next year
What guys are you thinking of Swamp?
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:57 pm to auyushu
I assume Bruce or Gomez
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:00 pm to auyushu
Lucroy, Gomez, Bruce, Reddick, and an old Bautista I think will all be feasible options.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:11 pm to SwampDonks
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Lucroy, Gomez, Bruce, Reddick, and an old Bautista I think will all be feasible options.
Ahh. I could see Lucroy of course, but I don't really see the others as better options than Upton. Gomez maybe, but I couldn't see us going after a guy with such a douchy attitude, wouldn't really fit with our Front Office's decision making I don't think.
I wouldn't mind Reddick though, he probably wouldn't cost a fortune. We'd need a decent lefty masher to platoon with him though.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:22 pm to auyushu
Yeah I never said they would be better than Upton as I would like to have Upton back, but it's a decent, not great, free agent class of guys that we can feasible go after. Because we sure as hell can't realistically go after the cream of the crop with our TV contract. But if we can land 1 or 2 of these guys along with a trade or two, we will be perfectly fine. We're in a good position with our financial flexibility and deep system. We just can't afford to miss in FA or trades at this point.
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