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1978 Grammy for best album - Fleetwood Mac's Rumours
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:57 am
and defeated:
Aja - Steely Dan
Hotel California - Eagles
JT - James Taylor
Star Wars Soundtrack - John Williams/London Symphony
Does this make 1978, officially, the best year of the album era?
Aja - Steely Dan
Hotel California - Eagles
JT - James Taylor
Star Wars Soundtrack - John Williams/London Symphony
Does this make 1978, officially, the best year of the album era?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:39 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:In 1968, The Beatles' White Album, The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society, Astral Weeks by Van Morrison, and Beggar's Banquet by the Rolling Stones were all released within one two-week period (Nov 22-Dec 6).
Does this make 1978, officially, the best year of the album era?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:55 pm to Kafka
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In 1968, The Beatles' White Album, The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society, Astral Weeks by Van Morrison, and Beggar's Banquet by the Rolling Stones were all released within one two-week period
Not sure any of those albums are as good as Rumours, Aja, or Hotel California. Beggars' Banquet is a beast, singles-wise, and Astral Weeks is a great album, I'll grant you that. The White Album is barely a top 5 Beatles album (although I'm very fond of it). The Kinks were never my bag - of course they were so different, album to album, so it depends on which version of The Kinks we're talking about.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:11 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
Not sure any of those albums are as good as Rumours, Aja, or Hotel California
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:12 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Village Green is the first solid concept album by the post-US-ban Kinks, who recorded this mostly baroque-pop collection of songs about the decline of rural British culture. It's arguably their best album. Check it out.
The Kinks were never my bag - of course they were so different, album to album, so it depends on which version of The Kinks we're talking about.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:47 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Yes. Speaking of, I watched The Big Interview with Lindsey again last night. Not as good as The Making of Rumours, but still very good.
Does this make 1978, officially, the best year of the album era?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:23 pm to AlxTgr
quote:I'd sooner listen to Ringo fart than any of this stuff
Fleetwood Mac's Rumours
Aja - Steely Dan
Hotel California - Eagles
JT - James Taylor
Star Wars Soundtrack - John Williams/London Symphony
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:26 pm to Kafka
I can see that with the Eagles. With the rest, it just makes me think you either don't like, or don't know, what good music is.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:40 pm to AlxTgr
quote:Maybe
it just makes me think you either don't like, or don't know, what good music is.
I was being slightly hyperbolic. I can tolerate Steely Dan. I don't recall what's on Aja, but I presume it's the usual cocktail pop-pseudo jazz with pretensions. At least the singer's voice isn't unbearable torture, as with Rush.
As for the others... I don't give a shite about Star Wars, and anyway he stole much of it from Korngold's score for King's Row; The Eagles are the result of a fiendish scientific experiment to combine The Byrds with The Flying Burrito Brothers while removing anything resembling soul; Fleetwood Mac is an extremely profitable example of the El Lay Hollywood sound, in which performers act like rock and rollers, dress like rock and rollers, party like rock and rollers, and are called rock and rollers, without ever actually making sounds that could be called rock and roll -- mood music for the Quaalude generation, updated Pat Boone for the consumers at the mall.
And James Taylor. James Taylor? LOL, only during Sominex shortages.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:43 pm to Ace Midnight
It is hard to argue with that..
Rumors and Hotel are in the top 5 on just about any list. Others are extremely solid.
Of course we can debate personal preference all day long.
Rumors and Hotel are in the top 5 on just about any list. Others are extremely solid.
Of course we can debate personal preference all day long.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:49 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I can see that with the Eagles.
Even if you don't like the Eagles, Hotel California is a great, great album.
Kafka's tastes tend to run contrary to the norm - and I'm not derogating, it just seems, sometimes, that he's different because he really wants to be different so badly, it becomes a self-fulfulling prophecy.
To be fair, The Beatles almost single-handedly reinvented pop/rock music and made the album a viable work of art - if only because the record companies saw a gold mine in hitting kids up for $3.50 instead of $1.
But, the 1970s really saw it flower, particularly among rock acts - whereas pop and rock music had been largely a single-driven format from the early days of Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, etc. By the 1970s - they still wanted to "hear a single" but with DJs having more control over what got heard, by whom during the AOR era - having an album full of good songs, with little filler, was a goal of many artists of the day.
Concept albums notwithstanding, this attitude benefitted artists across a wide range of the spectrum - progressive and art rock groups particularly, but even the big hitters sought airplay for non-singles. For Pete's sake, Stairway was never a single, but it moved millions of copies of LZ IV.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:52 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
Good lord, man
He just made my previous point for me.
However, we need cats like Kafka - keeps us on our toes.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:54 pm to Kafka
quote:Oh jeez. I really would not admit that. Pretensions? WTF?
I can tolerate Steely Dan. I don't recall what's on Aja, but I presume it's the usual cocktail pop-pseudo jazz with pretensions.
quote:Fly By Night and Limelight are all time great songs.
At least the singer's voice isn't unbearable torture, as with Rush.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:56 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Fly By Night and Limelight are all time great songs.
Lee's voice notwithstanding (I like it, but I understand how it is both an acquired taste, and might not be some folks' cup of tea) - Rush is about as talented a band, man-for-man as there has been. Trios tend to have to be pretty talented, but Rush, Cream, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, and The Police really stand out - and in every case the drummer is the strongest player -
(ETA: Triumph is an example where the drummer might not be the best player in a power trio.)
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:59 pm to Ace Midnight
Problem? I don't see one...and I have all of those albums.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:59 pm to Kafka
quote:
cocktail pop-pseudo jazz with pretensions
They even celebrate it.
I was because you had a pretty good review going of some book on them, then just ripcorded because you don't like Fagen.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:04 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:It's really amazing.
Rush is about as talented as band, man-for-man as there has been.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:I don't like Fagen's attitude toward his fans. People spend their hard earned money to go see SD, and he responds by noting they're mostly original fans, grown older, and then he says, "That's what I do now -- assisted living".
I was because you had a pretty good review going of some book on them, then just ripcorded because you don't like Fagen.
He should get down on his knees and be grateful that someone is still willing to pay to listen to his college-boy lounge music.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:16 pm to Kafka
quote:
I don't like Fagen's attitude toward his fans. People spend their hard earned money to go see SD, and he responds by noting they're mostly original fans, grown older, and then he says, "That's what I do now -- assisted living".
I think that's largely tongue and cheek. I never picked up on an outright disdain for his fans.
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still willing to pay to listen to his college-boy lounge music.
Keep being Kafka, baw. You know I still love you. (#NoHomo) (#NTTAWWT)
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