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Joe Morgan's top 10 players list from 1998
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:07 pm
Interesting lists.
All-time
1. Willie Mays
2. Babe Ruth
3. Hank Aaron
4. Ty Cobb
5. Mickey Mantle
6. Frank Robinson
7. Joe DiMaggio
8. Roberto Clemente
9. Jackie Robinson
10. Ted Williams
Current
1. Ken Griffey Jr
2. Barry Bonds
3. Frank Thomas
4. Mike Piazza
5. Jeff Bagwell
6. Tony Gwynn
7. Larry Walker
8. Mark McGwire
9. Juan Gonzalez
10. Mo Vaughn
All-time pitchers
1. Cy Young
2. Warren Spahn
3. Walter Johnson
4. Lefty Grove
5. Christy Mathewson
6. Steve Carlton
7. Tom Seaver
8. Sandy Koufax
9. Bob Gibson
10. Juan Marichal
Current
1. Greg Maddux
2. Roger Clemens
3. Randy Johnson
4. Tom Glavine
5. John Smoltz
6. Pat Hentgen
7. Pedro Martinez
8. David Cone
9. Mike Mussina
10. Alex Fernandez
Future Stars
1. Vladimir Guerrero
2. Nomar Garciaparra
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Jose Cruz Jr
5. Derek Jeter
6. Andruw Jones
7. Scott Rolen
8. Edgardo Alfonzo
9. Shawn Estes
10. Neifi Perez
All-time greatest fielders
1. Willie Mays
2. Ozzie Smith
3. Curt Flood
4. Bill Mazeroski
5. Johnny Bench
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Brooks Robinson
8. Keith Hernandez
9. Ken Griffey Sr.
10. Luis Aparicio
Current best fielders
1. Ken Griffey Jr
2. Barry Bonds
3. Ivan Rodriguez
4. Charles Johnson
5. Roberto Alomar
6. Omar Vizquel
7. Jim Edmonds
8. Rey Ordonez
9. Ken Caminiti
10. Barry Larkin
All-time
1. Willie Mays
2. Babe Ruth
3. Hank Aaron
4. Ty Cobb
5. Mickey Mantle
6. Frank Robinson
7. Joe DiMaggio
8. Roberto Clemente
9. Jackie Robinson
10. Ted Williams
Current
1. Ken Griffey Jr
2. Barry Bonds
3. Frank Thomas
4. Mike Piazza
5. Jeff Bagwell
6. Tony Gwynn
7. Larry Walker
8. Mark McGwire
9. Juan Gonzalez
10. Mo Vaughn
All-time pitchers
1. Cy Young
2. Warren Spahn
3. Walter Johnson
4. Lefty Grove
5. Christy Mathewson
6. Steve Carlton
7. Tom Seaver
8. Sandy Koufax
9. Bob Gibson
10. Juan Marichal
Current
1. Greg Maddux
2. Roger Clemens
3. Randy Johnson
4. Tom Glavine
5. John Smoltz
6. Pat Hentgen
7. Pedro Martinez
8. David Cone
9. Mike Mussina
10. Alex Fernandez
Future Stars
1. Vladimir Guerrero
2. Nomar Garciaparra
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Jose Cruz Jr
5. Derek Jeter
6. Andruw Jones
7. Scott Rolen
8. Edgardo Alfonzo
9. Shawn Estes
10. Neifi Perez
All-time greatest fielders
1. Willie Mays
2. Ozzie Smith
3. Curt Flood
4. Bill Mazeroski
5. Johnny Bench
6. Roberto Clemente
7. Brooks Robinson
8. Keith Hernandez
9. Ken Griffey Sr.
10. Luis Aparicio
Current best fielders
1. Ken Griffey Jr
2. Barry Bonds
3. Ivan Rodriguez
4. Charles Johnson
5. Roberto Alomar
6. Omar Vizquel
7. Jim Edmonds
8. Rey Ordonez
9. Ken Caminiti
10. Barry Larkin
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:09 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:4/5 spot on.
Future Stars
1. Vladimir Guerrero
2. Nomar Garciaparra
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Jose Cruz Jr
5. Derek Jeter
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:10 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
1. Vladimir Guerrero
2. Nomar Garciaparra
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Jose Cruz Jr
5. Derek Jeter
6. Andruw Jones
7. Scott Rolen
8. Edgardo Alfonzo
9. Shawn Estes
10. Neifi Perez
That guy there, wtf happened with him?
Those Mariners should've kept everybody.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:12 pm to Bench McElroy
I can live with those list...
Except maybe Mazeroski, I know he has 2k hits but didn't he gavels low over all batting average,
Except maybe Mazeroski, I know he has 2k hits but didn't he gavels low over all batting average,
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:24 pm to RonBurgundy
Was good just never great..
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:24 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
Current best fielders
1. Ken Griffey Jr
2. Barry Bonds
Bonds was an awful left fielder once he got on the juice. Guy could barely move out there and was a defensive liability.
quote:
Current 1. Greg Maddux 2. Roger Clemens 3. Randy Johnson 4. Tom Glavine 5. John Smoltz 6. Pat Hentgen 7. Pedro Martinez 8. David Cone 9. Mike Mussina 10. Alex Fernandez
Pat Hentgen and Alex Fernandez... average pitchers. If a list of the Top 10 current pitchers were made, who would be the Pat Hengten's and Alex Fernandezes of the list 10 years from now?
quote:
Future Stars 1. Vladimir Guerrero 2. Nomar Garciaparra 3. Alex Rodriguez 4. Jose Cruz Jr 5. Derek Jeter 6. Andruw Jones 7. Scott Rolen 8. Edgardo Alfonzo 9. Shawn Estes 10. Neifi Perez
Alfonzo was OK but was 2010 WS MVP... Shawn Estes probably best known for being the guy too afraid to throw at Roger Clemens. Neifi Perez? Yikes what happened to him?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:25 pm to RonBurgundy
Steroids....
still had a solid 12 year career,over 200 home runs and 100 stolen bases... he hit 30+ home runs twice and won a gold glove
still had a solid 12 year career,over 200 home runs and 100 stolen bases... he hit 30+ home runs twice and won a gold glove
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:27 pm to accnodefense
quote:Sure not a coincidence he won 8 Gold Gloves between 1990-1998 and 0 after
Bonds was an awful left fielder once he got on the juice. Guy could barely move out there and was a defensive liability.
quote:Cueto and Kershaw
If a list of the Top 10 current pitchers were made, who would be the Pat Hengten's and Alex Fernandezes of the list 10 years from now?
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:27 pm to tduecen
Flaxseed oil
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:31 pm to accnodefense
quote:He wasn't awful until the end, once he hit 35 and started having issues he began to really decline. But again how many players are playing GG defense at the age of 34 (how old he was in 1999)
Bonds was an awful left fielder once he got on the juice. Guy could barely move out there and was a defensive liability.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:33 pm to tduecen
Derek Jeter
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:35 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:If Hentegen and Fernandez were half as accomplished as either maybe... I mean haven't you realized your Kershaw mistake?
If a list of the Top 10 current pitchers were made, who would be the Pat Hengten's and Alex Fernandezes of the list 10 years from now?
Cueto and Kershaw
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:39 pm to Bench McElroy
How was Andruw Jones not on his best fielders list? Best defensive CF I've ever watched
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:43 pm to Blakezilla
quote:
Andruw Jones
quote:
Best defensive CF I've ever watched.
You must have never watched Jim Edmonds.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:43 pm to tduecen
If Kershaw fell off like some people think he has began to.. He has 3 CYs and is a 5 time all star with 105 career wins.. Hentgen at the same point in his career (conveniently right as Joe Morgan made his list in 1998) made 3 all star games, won a CY and had 94 wins.. Not too far off. I was just answering the hypothetical.. I don't think Kershaw will completely fall off as some contend.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:46 pm to msudawg1200
Andruw Jones juiced also I think
I just remember how fat and big he was when he played for the Rangers and White Sox toward the end of his career. Looked nothing like the Andruw Jones of the late 90s physically
I just remember how fat and big he was when he played for the Rangers and White Sox toward the end of his career. Looked nothing like the Andruw Jones of the late 90s physically
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:46 pm to msudawg1200
Andruw was better than Edmonds. 10 straight gold gloves. Also I believe it was Ken Griffey Jr. That said most of Edmonds diving catches should've been routine
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:47 pm to accnodefense
quote:
Alfonzo was OK but was 2010 WS MVP
Alfonzo retired in like 05. Renteria was the 2010 WS MVP
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:48 pm to accnodefense
I think that's more of Andruw just getting lazy than the juice. In that era though it wouldn't surprise me
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:48 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:
He has 3 CYs and is a 5 time all star with 105 career wins
vs
quote:
made 3 all star games, won a CY and had 94 wins
factor in Kershaw has an MVP and it isn't even close
ah that is goldennugget with the Kershaw gem
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