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re: Lakers are now offering the #2 pick + Julius Randle for Demarcus Cousins per SI

Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:56 am to
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But, in recent history, how many teams with a true elite big could not manage to win at least 30 games and show any kind of marketable improvement? I know people can blame the Kings, but cmon.. Lead a team to 30 wins. 30. Cousins has had 5 years in SAC and hasn't been able to lead a team. Outside of his numbers, That's not elite to me



The question then becomes, how much can you put around him to maximize the potential of the team? I don't see where they'll have the capability to give him a couple of the mid-tier FAs that most championship teams have.

It's not that he's a not a great player. He obviously is but every team isn't structured well enough to build a championship team. Great players are essential but so are cost-controlled assets like good rookies and good young vets that haven't reached FA yet. When it reaches that point you either stand pat and be content to have a second-round playoff ceiling or blow it up.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:56 am to
How good do you think clarkson is? Where would you rank him among PG's last year? Going into next year?
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24384 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:57 am to
eh yeah, 3 more years of cousins makes this a pretty bad deal.

Didn't realize he was under contract for that long
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:58 am to
So many things wrong with that statement I don't know where to start
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27233 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:58 am to
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a guy that is going to walk next year


Huh?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:58 am to
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for a guy that is going to walk next year.


He is under contract longer than that I do believe.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 11:59 am to
I don't think we know how good clarkson is yet. Could've been a looter in a riot
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145317 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:00 pm to
I don't know, he was the best rookie guard. I think he can, at worst, be an above average point guard in the NBA if he finds his three point shot. Good enough to lead a team into the WCF with the other pieces
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24384 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:01 pm to
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He is under contract longer than that I do believe.


Oh ok, my mistake, thought his contract was up at the end of next season.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145317 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:02 pm to
He has 3 years left
Posted by OGtigerfan73
Member since Feb 2015
709 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:13 pm to
They are saying that the magic are the third team involved. What would they be throwing in and to who.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:14 pm to
Vucevic was the guy being rumored to be involved last I saw, but I think I saw someone say they aren't involved.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72093 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:14 pm to
Vucevic
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8246 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:29 pm to
Okafor and Randle for Boogie? LOL

Kings fans must be on suicide watch.

Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33236 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 12:34 pm to
No deal Cousins is worth more
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9846 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:25 pm to
If the Hawks called and offered a package built around Horford and Shroeder for Cousins, does anybody think that deal could be done? Gives the Hawks a potential star. Karl gets a solid vet and a young, emerging talent to mold. Win-win in my book. Maybe the Hawks have to sweeten the pot a little bit..
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76769 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:27 pm to
At the very least, send Cousins to the East. The damn league needs some balance.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71884 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:28 pm to
If they actually trade Rudy Gay to clear cap for Rondo just take the team from Vivek.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by Lakeview1
Member since May 2014
54 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:06 am to
Of course he's worth more, but that doesn't mean Sacramento is going to get what he's worth. Not with the Karl fiasco going public and Boogie burning the rest down. They're at the mercy of the other teams.
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