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re: 3 weeks in, and no apparent hope of solving LSU funding crisis.

Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36640 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Where is this shitty economy of which you speak?


Roads look like shite, education is shite, college students moving away from Louisiana, top students going OOS to better schools. But hey, we have oil! Woo, lets get fricked by the O&G companies some more and let them destroy our state, well yours, as I'm not a resident.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
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There were a lot young people in full support of him prior to running for governor

I was one of them. I blindly boarded the Jindal bandwagon when I was an uninformed college kid.

"Jindal is a republican? frick yea I'll wear this Tigers/Greeks for Jindal sticker while I get fricked up at this football tailgate."

That was the extent of my political knowledge. I have woken up.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Roads look like shite


government =/= economy
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education is shite

see Roads

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college students moving away from Louisiana

And blue collar workers moving in by the thousands. They're even building camp cities to house them all. Just because they don't wear sperries and khaki shorts without pockets doesn't mean that they don't make a shite ton of money, and produce a lot for the economy.

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and let them destroy our state


How? Outside of the BP disaster (where the state how are they destroying our state? By pumping hundreds of millions into the state's coffers? By donating millions to our universities? By donating tens of millions to our public schools? By employing tens of thousands of people? What's your beef with skilled labor and engineers?

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well yours, as I'm not a resident.


Well, that explains your complete ignorance of how great things are in the state right now. Baton Rouge is undergoing a complete 180 downtown and in Midcity. New Orleans is booming with the new Hospital districts, over $1 billion worth of investment bringing in hundreds of doctor jobs. Lafayette's boom is slowing, but the city is still going strong. If oil prices rebound a little, it will avoid any real slowdown. Lake Charles is seeing $20 billion worth of investments in just petrochemicals. Every plant up and down the Mississippi River is either undergoing hundreds of millions worth (some even billions worth) of expansions and new plants are even being built.

I'm sorry you hate what Louisiana is so much, but outside of it's government and public institutions (and essentially in spite of them), the state is doing just fine.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:58 pm to
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You do realize that this was orchestrated by Jindal, using his appointee BoS President, with a plan concocted by former executive Counsel, to conduct the secret search and interview so the public would not know. All in responses to fired President John Lombardi's frequent criticism of the university. "The Administration" of LSU had no hand in it, and actually fought against F King being appointed sight unseen.


Yes. I addressed that in my next post. Both sides really suck. Pretty much the entire government of the state and all of its public institutions had a hand in creating this disaster. This has been a failure in leadership from the top to the bottom.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36640 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:06 pm to
All that growth via oil at what cost? The state is being destroyed.

LINK

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I'm sorry you hate what Louisiana is so much, but outside of it's government and public institutions (and essentially in spite of them), the state is doing just fine.


Where did I say I hate Louisiana?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:11 pm to
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The state is being destroyed.


How?

Keep in mind that the state is not its government and the government is not its state.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:14 pm to
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The governor appointed the BOS. BOS appointed the president. President runs the school.

Governor cuts schools budget (since the constitution only really allows cuts to higher ed and healthcare and the governor doesn't take the initiative to try and create a new constitution) and orders president to trim fat. President cuts meat instead and blames governor while adding more fat.
Governor continues to cut budget. President claims the sky is falling and LSU will go bankrupt which isn't even close to reality. Investors buy into President's grand-standing and pull financing.



Is this not pretty much what happened?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:17 pm to
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All that growth via oil at what cost? The state is being destroyed.


How is that the fault of oil and gas? MRGO? That was only really built to supply NASA's Michoud facility.

Canals that were never plugged by oil companies?
I'll give you this one, but they're pretty damn insignificant compared to the real cause. You can blame the Jindal Administration for squashing the lawsuits intended to fix this (not that they actually would have because the lawyers would have skimmed half, the politicians would have taken 1/3, and the rest would likely go to graft).

The vast majority of our coastal erosion issues (like 99%) stem from the Army Corp of Engineers leveeing off the entirety of the Mississippi River, starving the delta of its annual sediment. That has nothing to do with oil companies.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:18 pm to
You may be the biggest Baton Rouge homer on this website, and that's saying a lot.

Sorry, baw, but Louisiana is shite. You could get a nice pay raise if you left, but you love city pork too much.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Sorry, baw, but Louisiana is shite. You could get a nice pay raise if you left, but you love city pork too much


Actually, Baton Rouge paid better than my offers in Houston even before adjusting for the fact that my housing prices are cheaper here as is my overall tax burden, baw.

If I received a better offer elsewhere, I don't have many qualms about leaving. Baton Rouge is simply the most logical choice at the present time.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:22 pm to
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but you love city pork too much.


and City Pork kinda sucks...
Posted by Topcat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2005
453 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:23 pm to
The state is not broke. Louisiana has a deficit because it spends too much. We spend more per capita than the U.S. average. In 2013, per the Kaiser Family Foundation, we spent over $500 per Louisianian more than the U.S. Average. If state spending per capita equaled the U.S. average, we'd have a $1B surplus. If spending equaled the southern state average, we'd have about a $3B surplus. Our legislature is not fiscally prudent. And LSU is losing funding because our legislators (and governor) will not get the budget under control. Ultimately, however, since the people elected these representatives, we only have ourselves to blame.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97771 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:23 pm to
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our state, well yours, as I'm not a resident.


You came to school at lsu from out of state?

why?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:24 pm to
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and City Pork kinda sucks...


Relative to Cochon Butcher, it absolutely does. Relative to what else is in Baton Rouge, it absolutely does not.

Brisket is on point as is The Big Pig.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:25 pm to
Not to mention that we also have about the same number of state employees as Pennsylvania, despite being much smaller in both land area and population.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:26 pm to
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The Big Pig


no

just no

most disappointed I've ever been in a sandwich. I love pulled pork sandwiches with slaw. they are my favorite food
and the Big Pig was one of the worst I have ever had
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:26 pm to
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The vast majority of our coastal erosion issues (like 99%) stem from the Army Corp of Engineers leveeing off the entirety of the Mississippi River, starving the delta of its annual sediment. That has nothing to do with oil companies.


Damn Baw! You need to stick to construction because you don't know shite about gulf coast sedimentation.

Sediment is flowing just fine out of the Mississippi River. In fact, it's flowing more now than ever before, it's just flowing off into deep water where it will take thousands of years to accumulate before building up.

The corps problem wasn't the levees, it's was diverting the Mississippi away from the atchafalaya and back into its natural channel back in the 60s. This was done for political reasons to keep the river flowing to Baton Rouge and New Orleans and not flood the atchafalaya and ultimately demolish Morgan city.

Had that not happened louisiana would be gaining land by the minute, not loosing it by the second.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55960 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:26 pm to
That is a good question.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:27 pm to
Thank you
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:27 pm to
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most disappointed I've ever been in a sandwich. I love pulled pork sandwiches with slaw. they are my favorite food
and the Big Pig was one of the worst I have ever had


Did you get it from the original location or the second one by Town Center. The one at Town Center is no where near as good because they use a different recipe for some reason. They use different ingredients but have the same name. It makes no sense.
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