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Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:30 pm to kingbob
Hey bub. Oil companies had a whole lot to do with coastal erosion. A whole lot. People may not like that and it's hard to admit it but it's very true. As much as the levee systems? No. But a considerable amount? Yes.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:30 pm to kingbob
the real disappointment with Bobby Jindal is not his no-tax policy; we have enough revenue. It is his failure to re-organize state government and take on entrenched beneficiaries of the public largesse. As far as the public can tell, he's only addressed half the government growth problem--the revenue side--and not the spending side.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:32 pm to Boudreaux35
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Gotta love when politicians act like children
Easy for them to do when their constituents act like babies.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:32 pm to Dale Murphy
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Change the constitution. There needs to be more areas able to be cut other than healthcare and education.
This x10000, but it's career/political suicide to vote for it so it will never happen.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:33 pm to TigerHam85
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Damn Baw! You need to stick to construction because you don't know shite about gulf coast sedimentation.
I assure you, I know plenty. If we hadn't walled it off, it would be dumping into the Atchafalaya. However, the root issue is still the same. Sediment is not reaching the delta because the river is walled off, thus dumping all of the sediment off the continental shelf. Nothing I said was even remotely incorrect.
However, if the Corp had allowed the river to change course and demolish Morgan City, it would have also pushed the saltwater wedge of the Old River up beyond New Orleans, destroying the city's only source of fresh drinking water.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:34 pm to Salmon
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original location
damn. Agree to disagree then. If you thought that was shite, I want what you're eating elsewhere.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:34 pm to kingbob
quote:well you said that 99% can be attributed to levees. And that's not correct. So.
Nothing I said was even remotely incorrect.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:36 pm to Topcat
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the real disappointment with Bobby Jindal is not his no-tax policy; we have enough revenue. It is his failure to re-organize state government and take on entrenched beneficiaries of the public largesse. As far as the public can tell, he's only addressed half the government growth problem--the revenue side--and not the spending side.
Yup. Probably because his friends, family, and flunkies benefit every step of the way. People thought he was going to be this great White Hope for the state, but then he immediately surrounded himself with Edwin's old guard like Alario after inauguration. He was just a fresh new face on the corrupt political machine.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:39 pm to jimbeam
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well you said that 99% can be attributed to levees. And that's not correct. So.
If the River had the 1927 levees, would the coast be net eroding or expanding?
If the river had no levees below Belle Chase, would the coast be net eroding or expanding?
If the river had no levees below Venice, would the coast be net eroding or expanding?
The oil companies have certainly made it worse, but none of that would matter if the sediment were making it to the marshes where it belongs. Subsidence in a deltaic system that has been denied annual alluvium can be a real bitch.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:40 pm to jimbeam
I've read this LSU budget 14-15 and it seems they had 20million in profit . This didn't include endowment or athletic revenues
Can anyone show me the numbers behind where this huge budget cut affecting LSU is coming from?
Thanks
bad, wording. whats the percent thats actually being talked about and where would it be taken from
Can anyone show me the numbers behind where this huge budget cut affecting LSU is coming from?
Thanks
bad, wording. whats the percent thats actually being talked about and where would it be taken from
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:41 pm to kingbob
that Jindal has Presidential aspirations is amazing given his inability or lack of desire to address state spending issues. If he can't fix things on the micro level, how can he believe people will have faith in him to fix things on the macro one.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:43 pm to kingbob
So can digging canals(direct marah destruction) and building spoil banks, thus creating huge areas in between them that are only flooded in major events (whether this water has sand[the real land building substance] in it [likely not] is moot)this creating Hypersaline areas with increased water depths that then kill off plants and suddenly you have a huge square lake (indirect marsh destruction).
Note that this happened all along LAs coast in the mid 20th century
TL;DR - digging up marsh canals and hydrologically isolating marsh areas will lead to destruction. Oil companies did this with wreckless abandon
Note that this happened all along LAs coast in the mid 20th century
TL;DR - digging up marsh canals and hydrologically isolating marsh areas will lead to destruction. Oil companies did this with wreckless abandon
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:49 pm to jimbeam
Absolutely. We do not disagree that both cause erosion. We merely disagree on the degree to which each are contributing to the overall problem. In reality, debating about who should be blamed more it is a huge waste of time. BOTH issues need to fixed. The canals AND the levees. However, one is being protected by state politics and the other is protected by the leviathan that is the federal government.
This argument is like looking at a dying murder victim that has multiple stab and bullet wounds that are hemorrhaging blood and trying to figure out exactly which one is most lethal when all are lethal if untreated. Oh, and you can't actually stitch up any of them because you're not the doctor and the doctor isn't allowed to perform that kind of work.
This argument is like looking at a dying murder victim that has multiple stab and bullet wounds that are hemorrhaging blood and trying to figure out exactly which one is most lethal when all are lethal if untreated. Oh, and you can't actually stitch up any of them because you're not the doctor and the doctor isn't allowed to perform that kind of work.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:50 pm to kingbob
No doubt. We are just disagreeing on the extent and I'd atrribute anywhere from 10-30 % of loss to oil field activities from extensive lit review.
Sadly I do not see a time when LA govt will get its shite together and make an honest attempt to fix the issue.
Sadly I do not see a time when LA govt will get its shite together and make an honest attempt to fix the issue.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:56 pm to jimbeam
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Sadly I do not see a time when LA govt will get its shite together and make an honest attempt to fix the issue.
That's because they can't. Both the Federal Government, AND state government have to work together to save it, and that's never going to happen.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:02 pm to yellowfin
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You came to school at lsu from out of state?
why?
Football
I've always loved LSU. I spent many summers in LA as a kid and grew up a fan. Just like kids going to Ole Miss/Alabama from LA, I wanted to get away basically.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:02 pm to Slippy
Look in the mirror. If you voted for that fraud you are to blame. The present day GOP cannot manage a proper government. They hate government. It's like hiring professor who hates football to be the coach.
Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse when he signs that anti-gay pro-religious bill. What a fool. NCAA, come look at this bunch of fools.
Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse when he signs that anti-gay pro-religious bill. What a fool. NCAA, come look at this bunch of fools.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:08 pm to Loveland Tiger
Jindal didn't make things a mess. He just wasted a good opportunity to try to fix them.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:19 pm to Topcat
Signing the repeal of the Stelly Plan didn't help, but for the most part you are absolutely correct.
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