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re: Ben Affleck wanted his slave owner ancestor 'censored' from Finding Your Roots

Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:42 am to
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:42 am to
Is this the part where you justify slavery or absolve Europeans and blame blacks because certain African tribes participated in it?
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:42 am to
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It makes them feel better about the crap their people did


What about what the black people did to their self? How they sold their own into slavery. That never seems to get mentioned by blacks.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:43 am to
Back to the OP, those leaked emails just prove once again that you can't believe anything coming out of that Box of Satan you call a TV.
Posted by JJBTiger2012
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:44 am to
I still can't understand why this is an issue? Blows my mind that anyone would judge Affleck on what his ancestors did or why he even gives a shite. It's been a loooooong time and one can either be proud of it or humbled by it. Whatever the case, it has nothing to do with us. What a bitch....
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:44 am to
if you don't know just say so but no this is not that part
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:45 am to
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They couldn't have been too pissed off if they were willing to do that.


Because I'm sure they stayed because they were happy to do so, and it wasn't because there were laws requiring them to sign labor contracts with whites otherwise they'd be jailed. It was illegal in some states for blacks to own their own business, be employed by other blacks or own land and farm for themselves. This is after the Civil War.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:46 am to
It is.

if you want a good lesson and white guilt I suggest you go to the Whitney plantation in Vacherie
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:46 am to
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Thomas Jefferson in Notes on Virginia:


Conducting Scientific Observation is also racist?

Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70259 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:49 am to
People really care about this or surprised?
I mean any high profile person with a brain would try to do this.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:50 am to
It depends what time period, area and country you are speaking. But many prominent families like the Rothchilds had a financial stake. Some of the noble and and I believe royal families in Austria did as well. Many historians have argued, the slave trade was the start of modern capitalism, consumerism and globalization.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:50 am to
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In my opinion, there is no such thing as benevolent slavery, under any circumstances it is cruel and twisted


Good is not the enemy of perfect. It is horrible that a Jew has to live in a secret compartment in my basement for two years, subsisting on stale bread and water, and it is wrong of me to allow it. But considering the alternative, the Jew and I may both feel it was the best possible arrangement available.

That's precisely why we DON'T want to "revise" history too much, as viewed from our air-conditioned 3000 square foot homes, it all gets a little distant from the realities of the period we are revisiting. We tend to simplify and put complex people and ideas into neat little 21st Century boxes, rather than honestly examine the difficult human choices real-life humans had to make at their exact moment in time. Which is exactly what Ben Affleck wants to do. He is uncomfortable with TRUTH and the implications thereof for his Liberal Fundamentalism.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:52 am to
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Because I'm sure they stayed because they were happy to do so


Is your mind so shut that you do not believe that this was possible?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
51945 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:52 am to
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People really care about this or surprised? I mean any high profile person with a brain would try to do this


What do you think would happen if, say, (insert the name of any person who claims to NOT be a liberal) tried to do what Affleck did?

Do you think PBS, the media, and a racist like Gates would help them cover it up?

Nope. Front page news. Easily. For days.

That's the "issue" here.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:52 am to
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if you want a good lesson and white guilt I suggest you go to the Whitney plantation in Vacherie


Phenomenally educational, I'm very grateful I had a small part in helping with one of the exhibits.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:53 am to
Well now we are speaking the same language.

it's ironic that the same people that started it made it illegal in the 18 hundreds. I wonder why
Posted by Chef Leppard
Member since Sep 2011
11739 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:54 am to
Theres over 35,000 black millionaires in this country today

In Africa today they are still splitting a piece of rice four ways

Someone explain to me the slow turning wheels of justice and opportunity for blacks in this country
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 8:54 am
Posted by fatheadgator
Sanford, Fl
Member since Oct 2006
1354 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 8:59 am to
Revision is good when more concise information is learned....revision is bad when historical facts are changed....you said there were no black confederate soldiers, evidence disputes that - = bad
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:01 am to
"Thank God my great granddaddy got on the boat"

--Muhamed Ali, when asked about his trip to Africa
Posted by Placebeaux
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51852 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:03 am to
Cummings is a profiteering arse clown.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
82616 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 9:08 am to
There are honest teachers who have the confidence to wade through evidence and let it lead them where this evidence goes. And there are Moral Nannies masquerading as teachers/Professors who dishonestly lecture what The Narrative demands. Neither Affleck or Gates are interested in honesty or fact, and that should surprise no one. They are Fundamentalist Liberals, and slaves to Marxist Race Narrative. They would both threaten you/fight you at a dinner party for disagreeing with them. The totalitarian mind in action. Agree with me or you are a slack-jawed racist who lives in a trailer.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 9:10 am
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