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What makes a film good?
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:01 pm
For me, it is 99% writing and 1% everything else. I would prefer to watch two people sitting in a room having a conversation (for example The Sunset Limited) than any recent Michael Bay-esque movie.
I judge movies the same way I judge people: are you interesting within the first 5 minutes of me meeting you?
For example, the first scene of The Dark Knight Rises is probably one of the worst written scenes of any recent top grossing mainstream movie.
Though I have been surprised after the first 5 minutes disappointed me, it rarely happens.
Also just for fun I leave you with this comment: Comedy is much harder to make than drama always, without exception.
Discuss. (Or don't.)
I judge movies the same way I judge people: are you interesting within the first 5 minutes of me meeting you?
For example, the first scene of The Dark Knight Rises is probably one of the worst written scenes of any recent top grossing mainstream movie.
Though I have been surprised after the first 5 minutes disappointed me, it rarely happens.
Also just for fun I leave you with this comment: Comedy is much harder to make than drama always, without exception.
Discuss. (Or don't.)
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:06 pm to CapitalCityDevil
ROI obviously
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:08 pm to CapitalCityDevil
If it makes me feel something or think about something I otherwise would not have felt/thought.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:45 pm to CapitalCityDevil
Not boring
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:52 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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Comedy is much harder to make than drama always, without exception.
True, there's way more bad comedies than bad dramas. Comedic acting is much more difficult than dramatic acting.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:53 pm to CapitalCityDevil
Sex Sales
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:12 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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For me, it is 99% writing and 1% everything else. I would prefer to watch two people sitting in a room having a conversation (for example The Sunset Limited) than any recent Michael Bay-esque movie.
See, the beauty of film is that it's a little bit of everything. If I wanted something that's 90% writing, well I'd read a book or comic book. Those are also certainly great mediums of art that have a lot to contribute, but when I see a film...it's about all the pieces.... writing, editing, cinematography, acting, special effects, costume design, music, etc.
It's the interplay of those elements to tell a great story and inspire/incite a feeling, that makes a "good film."
That doesn't mean that Michael Bay can't make a good film, he's made a couple for sure, but he leans too hard on one aspect to be consistently good. No one does a better job filming explosions. And there's value in that.
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I judge movies the same way I judge people: are you interesting within the first 5 minutes of me meeting you?
If I'm even mildly interested, I'll watch anything all the way through.
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For example, the first scene of The Dark Knight Rises is probably one of the worst written scenes of any recent top grossing mainstream movie.
Prepare yourself....
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Also just for fun I leave you with this comment: Comedy is much harder to make than drama always, without exception.
They both can be pretty tough to make. Making an effective movie is tough, period. No matter the genre. Star Wars. Holy Grail. Die Hard. Casablanca. Wizard of Oz. All of those films took guts and hard work.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:14 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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For me, it is 99% writing and 1% everything else. I would prefer to watch two people sitting in a room having a conversation (for example The Sunset Limited) than any recent Michael Bay-esque movie.
Watching two people sitting in a room talking could be very boring depending on what the are talking about. Where as a movie with little to no dialog could be very cinematic and still tell a good story.
Lots of things go into a good movie. Writing is important but equally so is what the story is about and does it interest me. Then there's total production value, directing, cinematography, acting, soundtrack,etc.
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I judge movies the same way I judge people: are you interesting within the first 5 minutes of me meeting you?
That's not really a good way to find good movies or meet people.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:17 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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For me, it is 99% writing and 1% everything else.
I wouldn't go that far since there are directors and actors that can make a huge difference in any production but if you have a great story/script, then there are likely a lot of directors and actors who could make it work.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:20 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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I judge movies the same way I judge people: are you interesting within the first 5 minutes of me meeting you?
Wow! You are really intelligent op!!!!
You sound like a pretentious a-hole, fwiw
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:28 pm to CapitalCityDevil
Being the exact opposite of 'The Phantom Menace.'
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:38 pm to CapitalCityDevil
When one of the main actors dies irl during production.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:46 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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I judge movies the same way I judge people: are you interesting within the first 5 minutes of me meeting you?
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:01 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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For me, it is 99% writing and 1% everything else.
I won't go that far but I agree that writing is by far the essential part of a great film. That's why I usually don't hold directors who don't write their own films in the same esteem as the auteurs who write and direct. Anybody can direct but it's hard as hell to write a good script.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:22 pm to CapitalCityDevil
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What makes a film good?
If I liked it or not.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:53 pm to CapitalCityDevil
Acting and dialogue is a big part of it for me. Characters being able to carry on a conversation that sounds like you and your friends making small talk and makes you feel like you're right there,in the room, sitting down listening to them. To me that gets someone more into the universe of the movie and sets up the other variables that makes a film great.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 12:17 am to CapitalCityDevil
I think it really depends. There are so many different aspects that come into what makes a movie good or bad.
First of all, the enjoyment of movies is very subjective. Some people just connect with stories or characters better than others so they may enjoy a movie more than another person.
If I find a characters motivations compelling or believable, that weighs a lot for me. I think people need reasons for doing what they're doing. Their motivations need to be clear and reasonable.
A good story is also important. It doesn't have to have subject matter that I can relate to, but it needs to be told in such a way that makes it interesting. Proper pacing, character development, etc need to be right for that particular movie.
It also depends on what type of movie you're watching. For me, Horror movies for instance are all about how shocking they can be. What's shocking to me may be different from what's shocking to you. Dialogue, acting, etc don't weigh as much. There are also comedy horror movies that have a completely different criteria.
Everyone has their reasons for why they like what they like. I think everyone's opinion can be valuable in some way. I think the most important thing about what makes a film is good is that people figure out for themselves whether or not they like it and are not swayed by outside opinion too much.
First of all, the enjoyment of movies is very subjective. Some people just connect with stories or characters better than others so they may enjoy a movie more than another person.
If I find a characters motivations compelling or believable, that weighs a lot for me. I think people need reasons for doing what they're doing. Their motivations need to be clear and reasonable.
A good story is also important. It doesn't have to have subject matter that I can relate to, but it needs to be told in such a way that makes it interesting. Proper pacing, character development, etc need to be right for that particular movie.
It also depends on what type of movie you're watching. For me, Horror movies for instance are all about how shocking they can be. What's shocking to me may be different from what's shocking to you. Dialogue, acting, etc don't weigh as much. There are also comedy horror movies that have a completely different criteria.
Everyone has their reasons for why they like what they like. I think everyone's opinion can be valuable in some way. I think the most important thing about what makes a film is good is that people figure out for themselves whether or not they like it and are not swayed by outside opinion too much.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 12:21 am
Posted on 4/18/15 at 2:44 am to CapitalCityDevil
It takes much more than just writing.
It's about 55% writing, 30% acting, 10% direction and 5% percent production/everything else.
It's about 55% writing, 30% acting, 10% direction and 5% percent production/everything else.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 3:01 pm to CapitalCityDevil
quote:salt, pepper and a little cayenne.
What makes a film good?
Posted on 4/18/15 at 7:13 pm to CapitalCityDevil
A great, captivating and intriguing story that has a point to why it was written. But cinematography, acting and directing has strong pull as well. You can have a great story, but piss poor acting and amateur cinematography can ruin a great story. But it goes hand in hand: mind blowing eye candy can be ruined by a lackluster story.
But movies have become such shite nowadays, I'd take simple boring shots over the amateur, shaky shite these hack filmmakers try to pull off these days. They call it "art" I call it "being cheap and lazy".
What I find particularly piquant about filmmakers these days is they'll have a $100 million dollar budget, yet the film will like it was shot with a $200 Fuji camera from Best Buy by sixth graders.
But movies have become such shite nowadays, I'd take simple boring shots over the amateur, shaky shite these hack filmmakers try to pull off these days. They call it "art" I call it "being cheap and lazy".
What I find particularly piquant about filmmakers these days is they'll have a $100 million dollar budget, yet the film will like it was shot with a $200 Fuji camera from Best Buy by sixth graders.
This post was edited on 4/18/15 at 7:16 pm
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