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1989-1990 LSU Basketball: What do you remember the problem being?

Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21126 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:09 pm
Watching the Shaq documentary got me thinking about that team.

They had great wins (UNLV, LMU), but never could really gell together consistently. Probably the most talented basketball team that never won anything.

What do you remember the problems were? Shaq said that there were too many guys who wanted to be "the man."

Was it Chris Jackson, who had to score all the time and could not play PG?

Was it Shaq, who didn't have the confidence yet?

That team could have used a Ricky Blanton type player to give leadership, but it seemed to be lacking.

That was a Calipari/Kentucky type team with all of the talent in the world.

What was the major problem? Of course, Georgia Tech absolutely catching fire in the 2nd round of the NCAAs had something to do with it too. That was a very good team.

I just read about that Georgia Tech game. Chris Jackson was hurt and had a horrible game. Fouled out with 2 and a half minutes to go and LSU leading 88-87. Lost 94-91. LSU had jumped to a 22-5 lead before losing it at the end.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 10:15 pm
Posted by bilbo72
Watson, La.
Member since Nov 2013
135 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:16 pm to
Probably because our best 3 players were 2 freshmen and a sophmore in a completely different era of college basketball. Most players stayed until they were juniors which meant other teams had more experience than us. With the exception of the fab 5 most young teams didn't do great things.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:22 pm to
Yeah, they were all young. Shaq had flashes of awesomeness, but didn't become consistently dominant until the following seasons. Also, that Georgia Tech team was their best ever at the time and they had 3 NBA 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder that were drafted from that team. Also, Dale was pretty good at blowing some big leads.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71241 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:37 pm to
Dale was a sub par x's & o's coach
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:42 pm to
No seniors and only 2 or 3 juniors. ricky blanton graduated a year too early
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 6:38 am to
Same as football now, coach was an incredible recruiter, ambassador and media darling but a retardo game coach. He might as well have been playing Mario brothers once game time started
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:08 am to
There were egos, and they were pretty big. Dale couldn't keep them in check.

The team was young, at least the big names were, but they really lost to some teams, like Auburn that year, that had absolutely no business being anywhere close to us.

So when it came time to seeding we had to play Ga. Tech in the second round instead of a 6 or 7 see like we should have been.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40574 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:23 am to
They were too young and inexperienced. If CJ would have stayed for his junior year, and Stanley made his grades, they would have made a real run the next year.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39667 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:53 am to
They had a very poor head coach when it came to disciplining the team. He was a good recruiter, and he was an underrated in-game coach, but the lack of discipline caused them to be a huck-and-chuck team. Give that team to Rick Pitino, and they would have been a serious threat to win it all.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:02 am to
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1989-1990 LSU Basketball: What do you remember the problem being? by AlaTiger


If I recall right, the entire starting five on that team had a combined one year of college basketball experience. Chris Jackson had played the previous year, but all four other starters were playing for the first time. Shaq was a true freshman and very unpolished offensively, with a penchant for getting in foul trouble (fouled out a lot even though the SEC went to the NBA-like 6-foul rule that year). Stanley Roberts wasn't a freshman, but was playing for the first time after sitting out due to grade problems. I think Maurice Williamson had also sat out for grade problems and was playing for the first time. I forget who the other starter was.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:18 am to
That team gets too much grief. I understand completely about the 1992 Fab Five and what Kentucky has done of late. Still, CJ was a soph (and not really the world's best "team player"),Shaquille was a freshman and Roberts was a Prop 48 first yr player who had been virtually dormant for a year.

With that said it was inexcusable for that squad not to have won the SEC Title. That was Georgia and Alec Kessler's big year. Georgia won late in Baton Rouge and came from 17 down at halftime in Athens to beat LSU.Either one of those resulting in an LSU win would have given LSU a share.

If that wasn't enough, the next game after Georgia was an ESPN game in Gainesville. Remember,this was a long time before virtually every game was televised. This was put together back in the summer to feature Florida's Livingston Chatman and Dewayne Schintzius. Florida had just won its first SEC title the prior year.But in October of 1989 Florida coach Norm Sloan was fired over NCAA allegations. Recently fired former Tennessee coach Don DeVoe was chosen as 'interim coach.'A "player's coach" to a Bob Knight protege'.Chatman and Schintzius quit in early January for failing to comply with some of DeVoe's requests.

Okay,the point--? Well, around mid-January Florida was fielding a virtual intramural team. LSU started out ahead 14-4 and Dick Vitale was talking about an "M&M - er" and how this was going to be bad. Florida caught up and led at halftime. They actually increased their lead to 63-39 at one point before a run made the final margin more 'acceptable.'

In my opinion, including 1/9/12, this was the most embarrassing performance in LSU history. A team that had been ranked as high as #2 being beaten soundly by a team that was just trying to finish the season.

Still, the "NC or bust" predictions were crazy. Remember the Georgia Tech team that eliminated us went on to the Final Four. Of course that regional was played in the Superdome, where had LSU beaten Tech,they very well would have gone to the FF.
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
Member since Jun 2009
907 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:53 pm to
Wimp Sanderson once spoke of the 1989-1990 team with this observation:

"They're so good even Dale can't screw 'em up."
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:57 pm to
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