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re: WWII US bomber crew shot down over Japan were dissected while alive
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:10 am to ChewyDante
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:10 am to ChewyDante
We wanted to bomb a relatively undamaged city in order to have a more accurate Bomb Damage Assessment. We want an accurate picture of what our new weapon could do. I believe Nagata was on the target list and one other city. Kyoto, the Imperial City, was proposed, but eliminated because of political and historical considerations. My father swore that Curtis LeMay wanted to use the Emperor's Palace as the aiming point for the first bomb. LeMay understood the concept of Shock and Awe.
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:14 am to Darth_Vader
Supposedly, when asked about the atomic bombing death toll estimate, LeMay said something to the effect of, "I don't know what the big deal is. I've been killing 100,000 a night since March."
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:16 am to Darth_Vader
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Three hundred B29 bombers dropped nearly 500,000 cylinders of napalm and petroleum jelly on the most densely populated areas of Tokyo.
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The firestorms killed about 100,000 civilians and wiped out about half of the city.
Impressive effect on target.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:24 am to White Roach
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I believe Nagata was on the target list and one other city. Kyoto, the Imperial City, was proposed, but eliminated because of political and historical considerations. My father swore that Curtis LeMay wanted to use the Emperor's Palace as the aiming point for the first bomb. LeMay understood the concept of Shock and Awe.
Man, the world would have never forgiven us.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:25 am to wadewilson
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Man, the world would have never forgiven us.
A lot still blame us.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:31 am to Darth_Vader
I knew Nagasaki was a secondary target, but couldn't remember the primary...
Kokura was too cloudy to bomb, so Nagasaki got it instead. How lucky were the citizens of Kokura?
(Correct spelling of fourth target city is Niigata.)
Kokura was too cloudy to bomb, so Nagasaki got it instead. How lucky were the citizens of Kokura?
(Correct spelling of fourth target city is Niigata.)
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:32 am to Darth_Vader
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A lot still blame us.
No one of consequence.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:35 am to Darth_Vader
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Stain murdered more civilians (mostly Soviet btw) than Hitler ever dreamed of killing.
shite Stain? Hitler dreamed of killing more people than Stalin actually did, I am sure of that!
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:37 am to lsu480
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shite Stain? Hitler dreamed of killing more people than Stalin actually did, I am sure of that!
The fact still stands that when it comes to cold blooded murder of civilians, Stalin smoked Hitler. And Mao smoked them both.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:40 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Patton and Churchill wanted to rearm the Germans and keep going east and push the Soviets back inside the original USSR/Russian border. Got politically over-ruled. Would have been bloody if theirs had been the course history followed. Would have been interesting. And then suppose we'd lost... I wonder if Harry Turtledove has written an alternative history series on this topic.
The truth of the Eastern Front is there really was no good side there, they were about equally horrible.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:43 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:40 am to Darth_Vader
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The atomic bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have dominated the retelling of WWII history, but as a single attack the bombing of Tokyo was more destructive.
The firestorms killed about 100,000 civilians and wiped out about half of the city.
The US military had waited for a clear and windy night to inflict maximum damage, and on March 9, 1945 the conditions were perfect.
Three hundred B29 bombers dropped nearly 500,000 cylinders of napalm and petroleum jelly on the most densely populated areas of Tokyo.
The raid, which came a month after the firebombing of Dresden, brought mass incineration of civilians to a new horrific level
It kind of makes you wish they had camera phones back then. Watching a bunch of those grenade throwers running around with napalm while the guy filming screamed out Worrrstah would be hilarious!
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:45 am to lsu480
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It kind of makes you wish they had camera phones back then. Watching a bunch of those grenade throwers running around with napalm while the guy filming screamed out Worrrstah would be hilarious!
Really?
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:49 am to Darth_Vader
After what they did to Americans hell yes!
ETA: If some other bikers came and dissected your club brothers while alive, tortured them, bombed them, shot at them daily etc you wouldn't want that club and their families to pay?
ETA: If some other bikers came and dissected your club brothers while alive, tortured them, bombed them, shot at them daily etc you wouldn't want that club and their families to pay?
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:52 am to lsu480
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After what they did to Americans hell yes!
No.
You do what needs to be done, taking pleasure in it makes you no better than them.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:55 am to lsu480
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After what they did to Americans hell yes!
Japan did bring down on them by their actions the devastation that was the American bombing campaign. The bombing of Japan was just. But we should not revel in the destruction or make light of it. Otherwise we're no better than those who were guilty of the actions that lead to this devastation.
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ETA: If some other bikers came and dissected your club brothers while alive, tortured them, bombed them, shot at them daily etc you wouldn't want that club and their families to pay?
The retribution would be on those individuals who were guilty. Family is off limits.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:57 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:59 am to lsu480
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It kind of makes you wish they had camera phones back then. Watching a bunch of those grenade throwers running around with napalm while the guy filming screamed out Worrrstah would be hilarious!
we are talking thousands of people, mostly women and children and the eldery. dying in horrible ways and you think it would be funny to film this.
apparently you have never seen the horrors of war, Jackass
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:06 am to JawjaTigah
Patton and Churchill were right.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:08 am to White Roach
Tuskegee Experiments studied the progression of syphilis in patients that already had the disease. The problem is they withheld treatment. This is why new studies have a "Do no harm" policy.
While is is horrible and innocent men died under the supervision of doctors, it is nothing like WWII Japan.
While is is horrible and innocent men died under the supervision of doctors, it is nothing like WWII Japan.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:08 am to Darth_Vader
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The retribution would be on those individuals who were guilty. Family is off limits.
If that is your club policy that is fine but I would prefer the scorched earth approach where you destroy everything and everyone so nobody ever thinks of messing with you again.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:10 am to lsu480
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If that is your club policy that is fine but I would prefer the scorched earth approach where you destroy everything and everyone so nobody ever thinks of messing with you again.
Ask the soviets how well that worked for quelling jihadists.
They are STILL be attacked today.
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