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First four rule for the Ncaa Tournament

Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:11 am
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14656 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:11 am
So help me understand this.

I can understand teams playing for the 16th seed to get in but why are BYU/Miss and Boise/Dayton playing for the 11th seed. Shouldn't these teams be in before the 12th,13th,14th,15th,and 16th seeded teams?

Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:13 am to
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Shouldn't these teams be in before the 12th,13th,14th,15th,and 16th seeded teams?

Lot of these are auto-bid teams
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79362 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:13 am to
If you're looking at the tourney from scratch, then obviously you're right it's unfair.

But knowing how it was prior to the "first round," bubble teams from major conferences get in with seeding like the 11, not at 15 or 16. You have to account for bad automatic qualifiers, then it makes a little more sense.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 10:14 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28543 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:13 am to
The teams playing for the final 11th and 12th seeds are basically the last "at large" teams to be selected. The 16's all are automatic qualifiers.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99301 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:14 am to
I think it's silly personally but I think their justification is teams like Ole Miss and BYU aren't the autobids for their conferences and the teams in "worse" seeding positions are mid-majors who wouldn't have gotten in without winning their conference tournament.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

I can understand teams playing for the 16th seed to get in but why are BYU/Miss and Boise/Dayton playing for the 11th seed. Shouldn't these teams be in before the 12th,13th,14th,15th,and 16th seeded teams?


Those lower seeds are (for the most part) the auto-qualifiers from weaker conferences.

That said, I agree completely, and they should take two of the 15s and have them play in against the other two 16s and shuffle the rest down accordingly.

I think a play-in for an 11-seed is pretty stupid, and since two of the play-in games are already between 16-seed AQs then it's not like the play-in games are reserved for at-large selections.

Honestly though, they should just go back to 64 and get rid of the play-in crap.
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3323 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:31 am to
I wish the automatically qualifying 16 seeds would make the 64-team tournament proper however I do understand that by pushing 2 16 seeds down this makes the 15 seeds better. Better 15 seeds means more upsets (which we have seen more of over the last few years in the 2/15 game).

The difference between a 16 seed and a 15 seed can be extremely high
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5253 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:08 pm to
The reason is to keep the 16 over 1 magic alive. Just wouldn't be as cool if they did it as their second win of the tournament.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:19 pm to
Just stupid, made for TV dollars thats it
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