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Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:14 pm to Robin Masters
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Was a law passed which restricted speech that I missed?
No. Is that a condition precedent to finding a violation of freedom of speech?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:15 pm to LordSaintly
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ETA: They are not being arrested or prosecuted.
OU is a public and taxpayer funded institution and the students are being expelled from it over free speech.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:15 pm to Dead End
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Do you know ONE person that was a slave? No. So, drop your double standard.
Yes I do, so suck my dick.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:15 pm to CptBengal
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Arent you a lawyer?
Programmer.
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This is public institution. No public institution has the right to punish based on free and acceptable speech.
My assumption was that the First Amendment protects from criminal prosecution.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:16 pm to LordSaintly
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My assumption was that the First Amendment protects from criminal prosecution.
NEY!
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:18 pm to Sentrius
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OU is a public and taxpayer funded institution and the students are being expelled from it over free speech.
This is a nightmare for OU if the kids get some balls and fight.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:18 pm to Sentrius
While OU is a public institution, it's not like they're being arrested for their speech. I imagine it's a simple code of conduct issue. Free speech is irrelevant.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:18 pm to UpToPar
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Speech does not have to be "acceptable" to be covered by the first amendment. In fact, most of the speech that has raised first amendment issues in the past has been deemed "unacceptable" by most. That's why there is an issue to begin with
What the first amendment protects and what society finds acceptable are two different things. I was not attempting to confuse the two.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:19 pm to ChoupiqueSacalait
Y'all emulatin son
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:19 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Are you saying that these are the only things that freedom of speech protects against?
Is it not?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:20 pm to Robin Masters
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What the first amendment protects and what society finds acceptable are two different things.
everything those kids said in the video is protected speech.
every word.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:20 pm to CptBengal
quote:OU does have the right to punish them if they violated its code of conduct.
OU has no right to punish them for legal speech.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:20 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Yes I do, so suck my dick.
Standard comeback from people that aren't smart enough to stay on topic and present a viable counterpoint.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:20 pm to CptBengal
Is SAE typically the worst frat on any campus?
I thought them Sigma Chi's be representin too.
my dogs Omega Phi Psi's be runnin shite now.
I thought them Sigma Chi's be representin too.
my dogs Omega Phi Psi's be runnin shite now.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:20 pm to LordSaintly
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My assumption was that the First Amendment protects from criminal prosecution.
Every single court that has considered campus speech codes and other campus speech restrictions has found that all speech, including racist speech, is constitutionally protected and that universities may not discipline students based on their speech....which is why this decision to expel them is troubling.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:21 pm to CptBengal
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Well I'm glad the Constitution disagrees with your "view"...on this and many many other topics.
The Constitution covers university code of conduct now? Hoy shite what can't it do?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:21 pm to lsu480
interesting...
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The university president wrote that the students are being expelled for “your leadership role in leading a racist and exclusionary chant which has created a hostile educational environment for others.
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Given the president's letter, it's clear that the students are being expelled solely for their speech,
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:22 pm to CptBengal
I can't believe you walk around believing everything that comes out of your mouth is "protected"
Try it at work, my man. Go riiiiight ahead
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:22 pm to LordSaintly
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Is it not?
No. In fact, those are the easy cases.
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