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re: 3 year old boys freezes to death outside of home
Posted on 3/2/15 at 5:46 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 3/2/15 at 5:46 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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When mine were 3, I knew where they were at all times. You have to.
What if you're asleep!?!?!
There was no way outside for them while I was sleeping.
I usually went to bed around 1, wife woke up around 5. There wasn't a whole lot of time for them to find mischief in the middle of the night. We also had locks the kids couldn't open.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We also had locks the kids couldn't open
No way man, from this thread alone I've learned every child takes a locksmith class at the age of 3. Therefore there is no possible way to protect your child from running rampant at night, and their impending fate will just have to be accepted.
God wills it....
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:10 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What if he unlocked the door himself. You can't protect kids from everything. Accidents Can always happen. I didn't do much child proofing in my house except for locking the cabinet with chemicals and stuff. My kids are still alive.
That's exactly what parents need to think of. Kids CAN and WILL do things like that. It's their natural curiosity. They see you do it and want to do it. In my opinion, it makes it worse that the parents didn't think this was even a possibility that they should have tried to prevent.
You got lucky... Many people get lucky. To each his own. I just choose to try to be more prepared in protecting my children.
Again... Freak accidents and tragedies happen all the time. This was one that could have EASILY been prevented with a $20 latch mounted high on the door, at the very least.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:16 pm to cdaniel76
Many parents take it overboard IMO. They go crazy with protecting their children and it carries on past the age of three. Many parents I know want let their 6 year olds walk down the street without their supervision. you aren't protecting th em when you do that. You're doing more harm than good.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:19 pm to Mizzoufan26
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No way man, from this thread alone I've learned every child takes a locksmith class at the age of 3. Therefore there is no possible way to protect your child from running rampant at night, and their impending fate will just have to be accepted.
You do have to think of almost every possible scenario and minimize the risk. It's difficult, but can be done.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:23 pm to TIGRLEE
So sad
Kinda weird to hear a 3 y/o still wearing a diaper but this is just a horrible tragedy.
God Bless that family
Kinda weird to hear a 3 y/o still wearing a diaper but this is just a horrible tragedy.
God Bless that family
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:26 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:I have two 3 year old boys, it's seriously unfathomable for one to go out like that, freezing to death.
I also have a 3 yr old son.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:30 pm to SabiDojo
quote:definitely.
Typically 3 year olds aren't in cribs. They have a bed. A 3 year old can easily get out of the house on their own if you don't have top latches on your doors.
It's just so easily avoidable. Home alarm, chain latches on doors leading outside, or they make these special contraptions to place over the handle that kids can't open.
I have all 3 . it's a shame, it's just so easily avoidable.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:33 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I don't know how old you or your kids are. I don't care to know. None of my business but I'm glad they turned out fine no matter how or when they were raised.
However in this day and age, you can't be too protective or prepared when it comes to ensuring kids' safety and well being.
To think or act otherwise is simply delusional and counterproductive to a child's well being, in my opinion.
However in this day and age, you can't be too protective or prepared when it comes to ensuring kids' safety and well being.
To think or act otherwise is simply delusional and counterproductive to a child's well being, in my opinion.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:37 pm to cdaniel76
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I'm glad they turned out fine no matter how or when they were raised.
Thank you and they are 6 and 8.
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However in this day and age, you can't be too protective or prepared when it comes to ensuring kids' safety and well being.
To think or act otherwise is simply delusional and counterproductive to a child's well being, in my opinion.
we'll just have to disagree. I think being overprotective is just as harmful as being underprotective.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:40 pm to ZereauxSum
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you are unaware of the fact that a 3 yo is perfectly capable of unlocking and opening a front door.
Although I understand your point here's mine. I have two small children and literally them just walking and thier footsteps wakes me up at night. As the poster you are referring too said, theres no way a capable person doesn't hear a door open and close at 4 am with a child in the house. Before I had children a nuc could go off and I wouldn't wake up. As a poster said before, having a child changes your awareness and senses......or at least it should.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:43 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I agree with you to a certain extent. Just not when it comes to ensuring my kids can't get out of my house while I'm unconscious, sleeping in bed...
And letting a 6 yr old walk down the street unsupervised would be a tough one for me to let happen, also... Depends on location of neighborhood, traffic, familiarity with the neighbors, etc...
I live in a quiet neighborhood in a "good" area of Mandeville on a dead end street. Lots of kids my son's age and younger on the street. One family let's their 5 yr old roam the street on his bike and scooter unsupervised and there's been many times I've had to stop short to keep from running him over, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I'm just saying, to each his own when it comes to raising kids, but just because you believe parents can be overbearing doesn't excuse them from the responsibility of doing everything possible to ensure the safety and well being of their child.
And letting a 6 yr old walk down the street unsupervised would be a tough one for me to let happen, also... Depends on location of neighborhood, traffic, familiarity with the neighbors, etc...
I live in a quiet neighborhood in a "good" area of Mandeville on a dead end street. Lots of kids my son's age and younger on the street. One family let's their 5 yr old roam the street on his bike and scooter unsupervised and there's been many times I've had to stop short to keep from running him over, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I'm just saying, to each his own when it comes to raising kids, but just because you believe parents can be overbearing doesn't excuse them from the responsibility of doing everything possible to ensure the safety and well being of their child.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:46 pm to goatman1419
I must say I am surprised by how many people are taking a wait and see approach before judging the parents/grandparents. Normally the OT bashes everybody in unison.
I think it was a horrible accident that could have been prevented but I agree that you can't stop every accident from occurring. I worked in ER's during training and you would be amazed at the dangerous situations that kids under 5 get themselves into in an instant. They are little Houdini's.
I am glad nothing tragic happened to mine when they were that age.
I think it was a horrible accident that could have been prevented but I agree that you can't stop every accident from occurring. I worked in ER's during training and you would be amazed at the dangerous situations that kids under 5 get themselves into in an instant. They are little Houdini's.
I am glad nothing tragic happened to mine when they were that age.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:49 pm to goatman1419
quote:nothing ridiculous about this statement at all, IMO. i look forward to having kids and being able to see through walls, cool off hot liquids with my frost breath, and warm up breast milk with my laser vision. all of these abilities and more bestow you when you become a parent. i'll just have to remember to get rid of all the dog whistles around the house on account of the super human hearing.
As the poster you are referring too said, theres no way a capable person doesn't hear a door open and close at 4 am with a child in the house. Before I had children a nuc could go off and I wouldn't wake up. As a poster said before, having a child changes your awareness and senses......or at least it should.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 6:57 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Many parents I know want let their 6 year olds walk down the street without their supervision.
I wouldn't let my 6 year old walk down the street without supervision either. They're not mature enough to make good decisions at that age. They are easily distracted and attracted to things which might cause them to run into the street without looking, for example, just to name one of the many things that could happen to a 6 year old wondering around alone.
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you aren't protecting th em when you do that. You're doing more harm than good.
A 6 year old doesn't need protection and supervision in the street? Seriously?
Do you drop a 6 year old off at the Mall and tell him or her to go do a little shopping and call you when s/he's done?
I followed the case of Samantha Runnion, for example. She was 5 and kidnapped from her front yard. No one was watching her at the moment. Horrific case and outcome. Google her if you're not familiar.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:04 pm to Gris Gris
I let my 6 and 8 year roam around without me all the time. Just this Saturday I kicked them out of the house and told them I didn't want to see them in the house till it got dark. They roamed around and did things they probably shouldn't have and they're better off for it. I won't be googling the Samantha case because I refuse to let a 1 in 10 million tragedy affect the way I raise my children.
I want them to be independent and capable of making decisions on their own without always assuming mommy or daddy will be there to have all the answers.
I want them to be independent and capable of making decisions on their own without always assuming mommy or daddy will be there to have all the answers.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:12 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
You frighten me. At what age do you start sending them out alone? 3?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Geauxxx has a good point, but 6 and 8 are waaaay different then 3. I often forget to put the doggy door cover back on at night, and know I should to keep kids in and critters out. My almost three year old explores are huge back yard and goes into the trees ect... I'm not comfortable not being out there, but there are times where he's coloring in his room, playing cars, or watching a movie where I let him have his space. I check on him from time to time, but he loves having some time to just play with no one else around.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 7:16 pm to link
Funny but when you have children you'll see what we are talking about just wait. You'll see.
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