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re: Current athlete with best chance to be GOAT

Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:17 pm to
The only answers are LeBron and Messi, and Woods.
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Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:18 pm to
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The reason I say Wilson is because of the bill Russell argument. He is in an ideal situation to pick up a couple of rings early and then improve as a player and finish his career leading his teams to rings. Any quarterback with 6 or more rings would be considered the GOAT by many people, and that number is not all that rediculous for Wilson.



Ya, in his division it is a cakewalk!
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:21 pm to
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1. Usain Bolt
2. Michael Phelps
3. Tiger Woods
4. Lionel Messi
5. Roger Federer
6. Serena Williams
7. Rafael Nadal
8. Lebron James
9. Cristiano Ronaldo
10. Sebastian Vettel

Good starting point. I would drop Tiger to 8 and bump everyone up.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:23 pm to
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Terrible list. Here's a better one.

1. Usain Bolt
2. Michael Phelps
3. Tiger Woods
4. Lionel Messi
5. Roger Federer
6. Serena Williams
7. Rafael Nadal
8. Lebron James
9. Cristiano Ronaldo
10. Sebastian Vettel



That would be perfect for euro-fgts but this is the MSB so we are talking about real sports, not women shite, tennis and kickball
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:33 pm to
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No it doesn't.



How so? Peyton Manning or Tom Brady WILL go down as the best QB to ever play.

Peyton is reg season GOAT. Brady is post season GOAT.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:51 am to
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LeBron has the best chance but I am not sure he has the balls to take that title


Has nothing to do with his testicular fortitude. He plays in a much more competitive era than many of the all time greats he's compared to.
Posted by Takeru Kobayashi
Member since Nov 2013
38 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:21 am to
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best chance to be GOAT


quote:

My list:


no GOATbrook no care
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 1:23 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:26 am to
Gronkowski will end up the GOAT TE
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41237 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:33 am to
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10. Russell Wilson
9. Kershaw
8. Curry
7. Rodgers
6. Wiggins
5. Davis
4. Manning


I would think Luck has a better chance than any of those have.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37901 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:19 am to
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:29 am to
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Pele is consensus best.
No he's not.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8512 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:29 am to
Is it just me or are pocket QB's never athletic enough to consider them GoAT's? I'll say Wiggins.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:34 am to
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Any quarterback with 6 or more rings would be considered the GOAT by many people, and that number is not all that rediculous for Wilson.


Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71417 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:38 am to
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Mj


They changed the rules to contain Wilt.

quote:

muhammed ali


Rocky Marciano never lost a fight. And he kicked Joe Louis' arse.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:18 am to
Cam Newton /endthread
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12418 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:18 am to
NBA
Lebron
Davis
Kobe-not gonna be but he's more in the discussion than some give him credit for. Until Lebron equals his titles Kobe is ahead of him and maybe even then.

NFL-by position
Brady-QB
Gronkowski-TE
Watt-DE-love him but he's still got some ways to go just to catch Jared Allen imo
Kuechly-MLB
Peterson/Sherman-CB
Thomas-S

MLB-position
Kershaw-SP
Trout-CF, though he will never pass Griffey in my eyes
Cabrera-dont know what position but his numbers will put him in the discussion somewhere

Soccer
Messi

Tennis
Serena Williams-already imo
Federer-depending who you ask may already be

Golf
Rory

NASCAR
Jimmie Johnson

Boxing
Mayweather

Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10521 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:37 am to
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Kobe-not gonna be but he's more in the discussion than some give him credit for. Until Lebron equals his titles Kobe is ahead of him and maybe even then.


Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9513 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:49 am to
LeBron James.
Messi/Ronaldo.
Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:16 am to
Tennis is in an interesting place in that the woman's GOAT is active, the all time GOAT is active, the single surface GOAT is active, the player who achieved the highest level is active, and all of them are different players
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:23 am to
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So better track, shoe and clothing technology has no effect on time?


Sure, but Bolt obliterated the 100m and 200m world records.

He is the GOAT in those two races. He has the 3 fastest 100m times ever and 4 of the 6 fastest 200m ever.

quote:

Performance at the highest stage is a much better indicator of an athletes' true ability, and Lewis is ahead of Bolt in that category.


Not really. GOAT in track is the fastest of all time. That is Bolt in the 100m and 200m.

Lewis might be GOAT all-around track performer because of his skill and success in so many events though.

quote:

you can be certain that Bolt's record will be broken soon enough


And I will instantly call that person the GOAT in that event for which they own the World Record. If Bolt hadn't pulled up at the end, his record would stand for 40 years IMO.

quote:

I suppose by your logic that Jesse Owens is a worse sprinter than Trindon Holliday?


Yep, in the 100m. He bested Owens by .3 seconds. (while also playing D1 SEC football at a high level might I add)

We have evolved. It doesn't diminish what Owens did, but there is no subjectivity in a stopwatch. There is no direct influence by competition.

This is what makes Bob Beamon jumping 8.9 so insane. He was an athlete decades ahead of his time.



Having a world record quite literally means you did something better than anyone ever in the history of the world and in this case, its an individual event so its even more concrete.








This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:29 am
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