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re: ISIS hostage Kayla Mueller confirmed dead by family

Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:38 pm to
Yes, I'm sure you are so well informed by Fox News.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:38 pm to
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No, he pointed out that terrorists exploit religion. People have always used religion to justify bad deeds. Nothing new, nothing factually inaccurate. He wasn't justifying their actions.
At the very least, it was in poor taste. He brings that up at the White House prayer breakfast? That's a big frick you to Christians imo, not just a random comment.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I'm by no means a supporter of his, but come the frick on with this retarded-arse rhetoric you're spewing. Use your fricking brain and stop watching so much Fox news.


Don't call it "rhetoric!!"
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:39 pm to
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You see the difference here is that those folks you mentioned are fighting for or representing something


Kayla felt she was representing her faith.Kinda hard to argue that what she was doing was not representative of her belief in a loving God
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:40 pm to
How does this
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There's a guy on the Political board posting updated news on daily mass killings by Muslims. Its astonishing how devilish that religion is.



amount to this?
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Obama is a terrorist

Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:40 pm to
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I am in solidarity with the Syrian people. I reject the brutality and the killings that the Syrian authorities are committing against the Syrian people," said Mueller. "Because silence is participation in this crime, I declare my participation in the Syrian Sit In on YouTube."


This was a quote from her YouTube account. Also, doctors without borders stated that she wasn't there working with them, but she was in the company of one of their technicians when she was captured.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:40 pm to
It is rhetoric. He used language designed to persuade someone into his same line of thinking.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:40 pm to
It's one thing to go with military and other life saving entities like firemen on 9/11 but she went over there on peace saving trips without proper protection. Not the path most would choose but they know death is part of it and if that's what they want to do so be it, you are putting yourself in harms way and expecting the military to come rescue you.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:41 pm to
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Don't call it "rhetoric!!"



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"hey look, the Christians did it too!"


example A
Posted by 68wDoc68w
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:41 pm to
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It's pretty much unacceptable to allow acts of terrorism upon innocent people to go unanswered or unpunished.


this
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:43 pm to
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It's one thing to go with military and other life saving entities like firemen on 9/11 but she went over there on peace saving trips without proper protection. Not the path most would choose but they know death is part of it and if that's what they want to do so be it, you are putting yourself in harms way and expecting the military to come rescue you
All of this, completely understandable.

But again, taking that and turning it into "I have no sympathy for somoene like that" is so far out there, as it was said already, you have to have some deep rooted type hatred or issues if you truly believe that.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:43 pm to
So we shouldn't support people who are attempting to make the world a better place?

Some people have no respect for bravery.
Posted by geaux99
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:44 pm to
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I dont mean to sound insensitive, but what was she doing over there?


Helping people that couldn't help themselves.

"I will always seek God. Some people find God in church. Some people find God in nature. Some people find God in love; I find God in suffering. I've known for some time what my life's work is, using my hands as tools to relieve suffering." -An excerpt from a letter she wrote to her father in 2011.

She was abducted while leaving a hospital in Syria.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:45 pm to
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It is rhetoric. He used language designed to persuade someone into his same line of thinking.


O no, I know that. I was just being facetious because GRTiger was mad that I said he was perpetuating the rhetoric that Obama was trying to give ISIS a pass by comparing them to Crusading Christians.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:45 pm to
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It's one thing to go with military and other life saving entities like firemen on 9/11 but she went over there on peace saving trips without proper protection. Not the path most would choose but they know death is part of it and if that's what they want to do so be it, you are putting yourself in harms way and expecting the military to come rescue you.


I don't think she went there with intention of being captured or becoming a martyr.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:46 pm to
wow

i'm not religious but that really shows you what type of person she strived to be.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:46 pm to
Ah ok I haven't read the entire thread
Posted by geaux99
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:52 pm to
TigerStripes06

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You're a living, breathing piece of shite.


...and that's likely an insult to shite.
Posted by dafuqusay
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:52 pm to
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I am in solidarity with the Syrian people. I reject the brutality and the killings that the Syrian authorities are committing against the Syrian people," said Mueller. "Because silence is participation in this crime, I declare my participation in the Syrian Sit In on YouTube."


This was a quote from her YouTube account. Also, doctors without borders stated that she wasn't there working with them, but she was in the company of one of their technicians when she was captured.

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She sounds real bright....She probably never thought of being captured would ever happen

Is it terrible she died, yes....But she was an idiot for going over there
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 12:53 pm to
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Ms. Mueller, who had been working in Turkey for at least two aid organizations dedicated to helping refugees from Syria’s civil war, traveled into Syria by car on Aug. 3, 2013, and was abducted a day later.

She apparently was traveling with a Syrian man, who has been described by some as her boyfriend or fiancé and by others as her friend or colleague. The man had been hired to repair the Internet connection at the compound used by Doctors Without Borders, the international medical charity, in the war-struck Syrian city of Aleppo.

NY Times Article
Gotcha. So there may be confusion with whether she was working for DWB, but it appears she was, in fact, there giving aid in Turkey to Syrian refugees.

As for this:
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I am in solidarity with the Syrian people. I reject the brutality and the killings that the Syrian authorities are committing against the Syrian people," said Mueller. "Because silence is participation in this crime, I declare my participation in the Syrian Sit In on YouTube."


Not sure that that makes her an "activist" in the sense that she was over in Turkey to protest Syria. Rather, it seems she was over there for aid purposes, saw a bunch of atrocities, and decried them. But that's just the way it appears to me.
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