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re: Just came to a revelation: students/athletes attitudes haven't changed
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:17 pm to Tiger1242
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:17 pm to Tiger1242
It has nothing to do with being athletes and everything to do with parents who don't care about academics. I wasn't a poor kid at all but I wasn't rich either. My parents were together and were hard workers but neither ever went to college and they did not really care about our academics as long as we didn't get a D or F....I was a fairly smart kid book wise and always did great on standardized tests especially in english and history but I never studied and mad B and C grades most times. It had everything to do with parents who didn't prioritize academics.
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:20 pm to Tiger Ryno
You're 99% correct, parents are easily the biggest factor. Often times kids who do poorly in school have parents who did poorly and just don't think academics are important. It's a viscous cycle, it takes a parent admitting their life isn't what it could be and pushing their kid to be better than them
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:22 pm to Tiger1242
i exerted minimal effort in high school, made Bs. I exerted slightly more effort in college, made Cs. Nowadays, I do better than most and have a bunch of go getters that make me look good.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:22 pm to Tiger Ryno
But you live a sheltered life and shelter you kids. No one can take anything you say seriously. I really feel sorry for you and your family.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:23 pm to Tiger1242
My dad was very smart and ran his own business his whole life. He just never put any value on making great grades or pushing us to achieve excellence in the classroom or in a real career field. He just assumed we would be like him
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:24 pm to tgrbaitn08
You sound mad and stupid.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:29 pm to Tiger Ryno
You sound like a 3rd grade little girl.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:31 pm to Tiger1242
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Teachers/coaches/ect... we're the kids with the positive attitudes who worked hard and cared about their grades and that's why it boggles their minds when "kids today" don't care
Yet they are probably making more than teachers/coaches are today. I'm not saying its right, I am just saying. Also at my high school in the mid 90s almost all athletes got great grades, if we didn't the coaches would make our lives a living hell. And then there were our parents....
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:34 pm to Tiger1242
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I think you're misunderstabdung what I'm saying. I'm not saying that all smart people that tried in school become teachers, lots and lots of smart people aren't teachers. I'm saying that people who fricked around in school and generally didn't give a shite don't become teachers
Not that I disagree, but I only know 3 teachers/coaches that graduated from my class and what you just wrote is exactly the type of students they were
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:35 pm to Tiger1242
Used to let some of the biggest, baddest football players cheat off me when they got in a jam. They'd back down anybody giving me problems in school. Sad thing was some of them were too stupid to even copy the answers right.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:50 pm to RadTiger
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I can appreciate what your saying, but kids who get good grades don't go into coaching.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:17 pm to MikeBRLA
Probably why I'm not a coach. I'm illiterate.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:58 pm to Tiger1242
i think i can relate to what you're saying.
in grad school as a TA i was shocked that there were kids (not just athletes) who didn't care about their grades. that were happy with C's. as an overachiever and graduate student the idea of a student happy with C's was unfamiliar and even scandalous. but then i got over the fact that some kids don't care, and my life became a LOT easier.
to be sure i would go out of my way to engage every student. but some didn't care. the ones that were struggling and were receptive to help i bent over backwards to accommodate. the students who didn't give a shite, i didn't give a shite about them. welcome to the real world i guess.
speaking of athletes, though. i have been an academic and educator for well over a decade now and won't go so far as to generalize about student athletes. so let me generalize about student athletes...some of the most dedicated, disciplined students i've ever enjoyed teaching have been student athletes whose athletic regimen is what got them "on track" with academics. of course, there were others that were damn near illiterate but they were in the minority.
in grad school as a TA i was shocked that there were kids (not just athletes) who didn't care about their grades. that were happy with C's. as an overachiever and graduate student the idea of a student happy with C's was unfamiliar and even scandalous. but then i got over the fact that some kids don't care, and my life became a LOT easier.
to be sure i would go out of my way to engage every student. but some didn't care. the ones that were struggling and were receptive to help i bent over backwards to accommodate. the students who didn't give a shite, i didn't give a shite about them. welcome to the real world i guess.
speaking of athletes, though. i have been an academic and educator for well over a decade now and won't go so far as to generalize about student athletes. so let me generalize about student athletes...some of the most dedicated, disciplined students i've ever enjoyed teaching have been student athletes whose athletic regimen is what got them "on track" with academics. of course, there were others that were damn near illiterate but they were in the minority.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:05 pm to Tiger1242
I'm 40 and I never gave a flying frick about grades. I wanted to learn, but I wasn't going to kiss arse. I thought most of my teachers were stupid anyway. Pretty sure from about 5th grade until my Jr. year I didn't think teachers had much to offer.
I made fun of the coach/teachers relentlessly, they were the absolute worst. I still laugh at some of the shite those morons said.
Only idiots follow the rules.
I made fun of the coach/teachers relentlessly, they were the absolute worst. I still laugh at some of the shite those morons said.
Only idiots follow the rules.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 5:59 am to LSU85750
It's true, look at pretty much any statistic there is and student athletes in high school and college score better than non athletes
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