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re: 4-2-5 Scheme or Personnel far fetched ?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:40 pm to KG5989
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:40 pm to KG5989
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Ok... Should have just said we should run TCUs D, and not just the 4-2-5 And while we have the CB and nickel to run it, Mills would struggle as the lone safety. Would rather him in 1 of the nickel spots and put Adams as the lone safety. Plus, you sacrifice some beef up front which would come back to hurt us vs the run considering how we struggled agaianst it this year. You would be taking out a LB and have 2 DBs playing outside the tackle box. And it takes away from Debos strength, which is playing in space. . He would struggle, so would LL. Beckwith and Kwon could have done it though. And at the same time, I don't see the need for it considering we were 1 of the best in the nation agaisnt the pass and have a lot of talented DBs. Patterson started running this D because he was struggling on the back end vs talented offenses. We have the DBs to matchup with anyone in the nation. Our big problem is stopping the run inside. And we ran something similar to it in 2011 when we had Mo and Simon as the CBs with Ron Brooks and TM as the slot CBs. We just went man to man a lot because we had the players to do it.
I'm glad to know someone actually knows something about defense. I see your point of LSU having so many talented DB's why not put them to use? A lot of them do get used when they have matured enough to play. The issue is facing a balanced offense. Against A&M or Ole Miss we might as well just play out of a based 4-2-5. Heavy passing offenses. But as far Arky, Auburn, Miss St, and Alabama who all run effectively, you really need that extra linebacker. DB matched up against a tight end or an offensive lineman is no bueno. We have recruited a ton of DBs in the past too. I don't know. It's preference. You could easily run a base 4-2-5 with a 4-3 package or even a 4-4, but with Arky's emergence and most of the east still running power offenses it would be wise to keep 4-3.
Our troubles don't like in schematics but in personnel. We've been decimated up front and pay the price. Before you start anywhere on a defense, that's where you need to start. A good defensive line can hide a bad secondary. Our issues come from not being able to pressure the QB with four down lineman. It doesn't have to be every play but it certainly helps ha.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:49 pm to USARMYDasher
Yea I agree...
And when we play the spread offenses of the world, TAMU, Oregon, Ole Miss, etc. we pretty much run a 4-2-5 nickel most of the time, with some dime. Vs power running teams, it's s base 4-3 most of the time.
I love that we have guys that are so versatile and allow us to run multiple defensive schemes. IMO, your personnel should dictate what you run. You want to play to your players strengths. And we have been lucky enough to have a lot of talented and versatile players and are able to run a lot of different looks.
And when we play the spread offenses of the world, TAMU, Oregon, Ole Miss, etc. we pretty much run a 4-2-5 nickel most of the time, with some dime. Vs power running teams, it's s base 4-3 most of the time.
I love that we have guys that are so versatile and allow us to run multiple defensive schemes. IMO, your personnel should dictate what you run. You want to play to your players strengths. And we have been lucky enough to have a lot of talented and versatile players and are able to run a lot of different looks.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 6:30 am to USARMYDasher
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I'm glad to know someone actually knows something about defense. I see your point of LSU having so many talented DB's why not put them to use? A lot of them do get used when they have matured enough to play. The issue is facing a balanced offense. Against A&M or Ole Miss we might as well just play out of a based 4-2-5. Heavy passing offenses. But as far Arky, Auburn, Miss St, and Alabama who all run effectively, you really need that extra linebacker. DB matched up against a tight end or an offensive lineman is no bueno. We have recruited a ton of DBs in the past too. I don't know. It's preference. You could easily run a base 4-2-5 with a 4-3 package or even a 4-4, but with Arky's emergence and most of the east still running power offenses it would be wise to keep 4-3.
Drop that knowledge, son!!
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