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re: UCLA students protest in because professor corrected black students grammar
Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:54 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:54 pm to boosiebadazz
FO!!
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:55 pm to Jim Ignatowski
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Posted by Jim Ignatowski
This guy wouldn't get accepted to UCLA even if he were black. Only the police academy would take him.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:04 pm to Asgard Device
frick you a-hole.....the point is that we are dumbing down our schools for politics correctness .....and you are unable to see it.....so GO frick Yourself!!!
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:08 pm to shinerfan
quote:of course. None of which is really dependent on English 101. English 101 is reading some books and taking tests on them.
Its not grades that matter, its what you did or didn't learn. Few jobs require perfect grammar or punctuation but someone lacking the ability to communicate clearly and precisely is called a laborer.
This isn't composition 101.
The whole thing is ludicrous. "Yeah, dawg's bro is an excellent engineering student with good grades in his core classes, but Earl DID YOU SEE HIS TRANSCRIPT? He got a perfect score in English 101. I know. Weird. All A's and B's cept for A PERFECT SCORE IN ENGLISH 101. What are you talking about? We can't hire him ? Only blacks and women? Dude. He got A PERFECT SCORE IN ENGLISH 101. Do you realize how hard that is? Do you even English 101, bro?"
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:12 pm to CarrolltonTiger
quote:
Not that unreasonable IMHO. UCLA lets in Graduate Students of Color, based upon affirmative action. They are clearly not qualified to be in a graduate department at a functional university and yet expect to be graduated with honors just as universities have done for decades.
You made this up.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:20 pm to Easy
Explain how do people of color that can't write in standard English get into graduate school at UCLA if there is not some form of quotas for their admission?
You are in denial.
You are in denial.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:33 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:
English 101 is reading some books and taking tests on them
I took English 101 at Troy many years ago. Maybe it has changed since but what you are describing is 102 and above. English 101 is a course in composition,grammar rules and how to write papers and cite sources etc.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:44 pm to Pinecone Repair
quote:I stand corrected.
I took English 101 at Troy many years ago. Maybe it has changed since but what you are describing is 102 and above. English 101 is a course in composition,grammar rules and how to write papers and cite sources etc.
I didn't need it as I knew that from high school. Either way, doesn't really change my point.
On a side note, footnotes were a pain in the azz before word processing.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:09 pm to CarrolltonTiger
I believe that they are writing standard English. The micro aggressions are the problem if you believe them, and I do. You think they are writing in AAVE or something like the rest of these fools?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:11 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:
"Yeah, dawg's bro is an excellent engineering student with good grades in his core classes, but Earl DID YOU SEE HIS TRANSCRIPT? He got a perfect score in English 101. I know. Weird. All A's and B's cept for A PERFECT SCORE IN ENGLISH 101. What are you talking about? We can't hire him ? Only blacks and women? Dude. He got A PERFECT SCORE IN ENGLISH 101. Do you realize how hard that is? Do you even English 101, bro?"
Did you get 100 on the English 101 final exam?
Getting 100 on the English 101 final exam means my brother had to study his arse off in order to learn the rules of grammar and, as a result, he learned how to write and speak proper (American) English.
Yet he couldn't get a job back then because Affirmative Action forced all of the companies that were hiring people to hire a black person instead of hiring a more qualified white man even when that black person couldn't speak or write proper (American) English.
That's fricked up even if your dumb arse won't admit it.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 11:50 pm to Easy
I read the article you linked and many responses. I think these students are being little bitches and need to get over themselves and accept the professors grading and criticism. And there is no such thing as "micro aggression".
This was by far the best response I read in the comments section, and was written by a black gentleman. I think we should all strive for what he suggests.
This was by far the best response I read in the comments section, and was written by a black gentleman. I think we should all strive for what he suggests.
quote:
Certainly there are racial divides in society - maturity leads one to understand this has always existed, though varying in types & magnitude. The best way to reduce division is to work hard to unite, which can be done only by lessening the divide! Too many groups & individuals through the years have forged division rather than unification since it is the easier, lower-hanging fruit to make a name for oneself.
Meanwhile they & we all suffer in a languishing social, economic, cultural, and spiritual environment because it's much easier to divide than unite - the latter involves humility & wisdom - both of which are lacking in modern "higher" education! Our nation, economy, and character suffer while people increase the divisions between us. Humility & collective purpose will draw us together!
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 2:46 am
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:23 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:lol
exam? Getting 100 on the English 101 final exam means my brother had to study his arse off in order to learn the rules of grammar and, as a result, he learned how to write and speak proper (American) English. Yet he couldn't get a job back then because Affirmative Action forced all of the companies that were hiring people to hire a black person instead of hiring a more qualified white man even when that black person couldn't speak or write proper (American) English. That's fricked up even if your dumb arse won't admit it.
He couldn't get a job cause he sucked.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 4:45 am to BuckyBadger
Ebonics?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:04 am to goldennugget
The blog post is curiously short on details like date, and the link cited in that post no longer refers to this incident. When I see something like that, I get curious and start googling. As best I can determine, what he's referring to took place in November 2013. I don't know why it's suddenly newsworthy now, but here's a contemporary article from the Daily Bruin. The professor was supported by his Dean and the department, and the protestors were criticized by other minority students, but that doesn't fit the narrative so it doesn't get mentioned by the blogger. LINK
As you can see from this LINK, the professor is still there teaching his class, so nothing came of this except students being students. Some like to get shitfaced and do stupid stuff in bars and frathouses. Others like to get bent out of shape and do stupid protests over perceived injustices. Nothing much to see here, except some pundit trying to use it to prove 'Murica is going to hell because of the damn hippies. He clearly knows his audience. I expect to see this reposted on FB several times in the coming days.
As you can see from this LINK, the professor is still there teaching his class, so nothing came of this except students being students. Some like to get shitfaced and do stupid stuff in bars and frathouses. Others like to get bent out of shape and do stupid protests over perceived injustices. Nothing much to see here, except some pundit trying to use it to prove 'Murica is going to hell because of the damn hippies. He clearly knows his audience. I expect to see this reposted on FB several times in the coming days.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:37 am to CarrolltonTiger
quote:You may be an irritating crotchety old frick, but you killed it here.
Not that unreasonable IMHO. UCLA lets in Graduate Students of Color, based upon affirmative action. They are clearly not qualified to be in a graduate department at a functional university and yet expect to be graduated with honors just as universities have done for decades. Then you get this guy that is essentially fricking with the entire program by requiring these cognitively deficient scholars in a program for which they are not qualified to be held to the standard of writing coherently.
If this isn't addressed it has serious ramifications for the Graduate Students of Color, that you with white privilege don't grasp. They simply also want their privilege.
Damn.
Shots fired,
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:38 am to goldennugget
This only reflects poorly on the students. This sort of thing has probably been happening a long time. Our social media and interweb allows it more notice. The thing is that college students have been dumb for a very long time.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 5:58 pm to goldennugget
Grammer is either correct or not. There shouldn't be any gray area. I don't understand where race would come into play.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:09 pm to eddieray
quote:
Grammer is either correct or not. There shouldn't be any gray area. I don't understand where race would come into play.
Grammar does indeed have grey areas as does spelling. But I believe the issue was likely selective enforcement and correction.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:27 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:
Getting 100 on the English 101 final exam means my brother had to study his arse off in order to learn the rules of grammar and, as a result, he learned how to write and speak proper (American) English. Yet he couldn't get a job back then because Affirmative Action forced all of the companies that were hiring people to hire a black person instead of hiring a more qualified white man even when that black person couldn't speak or write proper (American) English. That's fricked up even if your dumb arse won't admit it.
quote:
He couldn't get a job cause he sucked.
I knew your dumb arse wouldn't admit that it's fricked up.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:27 pm to Easy
quote:Maybe in a few areas of spelling like gray/grey, color/colour, but generally speaking it does not. The vast majority of words are only spelled one way.
Grammar does indeed have grey areas as does spelling.
quote:No it isn't. There's absolutely no proof of this. Just stop with the perceived racism and micro-aggresion bullshite. No one's buying it.
But I believe the issue was likely selective enforcement and correction.
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