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re: Cadillac's new BMW M3 killer? The 2016 ATS-V
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:36 am to Camp Randall
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:36 am to Camp Randall
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M is an instrument of speed on a twisty track.
supposedly this M3 has taken a step backward in track capability compared to the E92. Yes, it's brutally fast, but it's heavier and with so much more torque it has a knife-edge personality if you're trying for a clean lap while riding the absolute limit of grip. It'll snap to overseer in a heartbeat.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 11:39 am
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:41 pm to Them
quote:
supposedly this M3 has taken a step backward in track capability compared to the E92. Yes, it's brutally fast, but it's heavier and with so much more torque it has a knife-edge personality if you're trying for a clean lap while riding the absolute limit of grip. It'll snap to overseer in a heartbeat.
Fastest regular production car BMW makes on the the Nürburgring and less than half a second slower around Hockenheim compared to the Track ready GTS....
quote:
Hockenheim
E30 M3 Sport Evo 1.21.4
E36 M3 SMG 1.18.4
E46 M3 1.17.6
E46 M3 CSL 1.13.5
E92 M3 1.14.3
E92 M3 GTS 1.12.5
M4 1.12.8
F10 M5 1.13.4
Nordschleife
E30 M3 Sport Evo 8:50
E36 M3 SMG 8:35
E46 M3 8:22
E46 M3 CSL 7:50
E92 M3 8:05
E92 M3 GTS 7:49
M4 7:52
F10 M5 8:05
quote:quote:I feel like everyone who says this now is basing it on information that is at least 5 to 8 years old.
Except that you don't buy an M3 because it has straight line speed. You buy it because no other sedan, domestic or foreign can claw its way around a track as gracefully or as fast as the M3.
For sure. Hell, the new GT350 has out M3d the M3 and the new M3-M4 is more muscle car now than ever.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 12:50 pm
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