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re: Miles MUST split time w/AJ and Harris going forward
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:10 pm to BobBoucher
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:10 pm to BobBoucher
I agree with most of what youre saying, im just trying to call out the people who are definitively saying that Harris will be better with no evidence to support that.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:17 pm to lsuhunt555
You don't get it, lsuhunt555. Harris cannot do worse. That is simply not possible. One cannot sink below the bottom of the pool. My goodness, I could complete as many passes as Jennings has just by throwing the ball up for grabs and might well complete more.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:20 pm to lsuhunt555
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Harris will be better with no evidence to support that.
I think most ppl are simply pointing out that he cant be any worse than AJ. That's how I feel at least. I watched the boy play every game his jr. and sr. year. He can make every throw on the field. He is a better runner than AJ IMO. He isn't quite as hesitant.
Maybe he doesn't know the playbook as well, I don't know.
I do know this...Parkway ran a spread/read-option type of offense with a shite ton of wrinkles. It was not a simplistic offense. I'm not comparing what LSU runs to what his HS ran...but at the same time, I don't think the kid is a dolt...as some have implied.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:20 pm to dguidry
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You don't get it, lsuhunt555. Harris cannot do worse
Based. On. What? If anyone of you people clamoring for Harris can simply explain to me WHY you say this ill buy in.
And for the record, im not against giving Harris a shot, I just like to call out all the people who swear they know more than the coaches.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:21 pm to RedTigerRulz
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I watched the boy play every game his jr. and sr. year
So now we are using high school games as evidence?
I just want the people saying this to admit "I dont know shite, but i'd just rather see Harris regardless of results"
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:23 pm to lsuhunt555
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So now we are using high school games as evidence?
finish the post man....I said I wasn't comparing the two. I'm saying what he ran in HS wasn't "see-spot-run" offense...that's all. If you talk to him, you quickly figure out, hes not an idiot.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:27 pm to RedTigerRulz
Im not saying he is. Im simply saying no one outside of the coaching staff, especially since no one wants to use the Auburn game as evidence, can say definitively that Harris is better yet a lot of people are.
Its plain and simple, people just want a change because they think it will be different. Problem is, no one wants to admit it. Opinion is very different from fact.
Its plain and simple, people just want a change because they think it will be different. Problem is, no one wants to admit it. Opinion is very different from fact.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:29 pm to lsuhunt555
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Based. On. What? If anyone of you people clamoring for Harris can simply explain to me WHY you say this ill buy in.
Well, Harris looked pretty damn good against New Mexico State. Better than Jennings has looked in any game.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:31 pm to MontanaTiger
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Harris looked pretty damn good against New Mexico State. Better than Jennings has looked in any game.
NOW were getting somewhere.
Agreed, he looked much better. That game in itself was a big reason why I would have liked to see Harris start either Sam Houston or ULM.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:35 pm to lsuhunt555
So the Miss St. near comeback was a mirage is that it???? That didn't happen right. He didn't throw balls all over the field and almost win the game.
He hasn't looked at least as good as AJ in limited action????
The Auburn game was a set up for failure...believe what you want. We weren't winning that game no matter who started because the D stayed in BR and took the night off.
And for the record AJ didn't exactly light it up when he came in (5/10...84 yds...no TDs)
He hasn't looked at least as good as AJ in limited action????
The Auburn game was a set up for failure...believe what you want. We weren't winning that game no matter who started because the D stayed in BR and took the night off.
And for the record AJ didn't exactly light it up when he came in (5/10...84 yds...no TDs)
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:44 pm to RedTigerRulz
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So the Miss St. near comeback was a mirage is that it???? That didn't happen right. He didn't throw balls all over the field and almost win the game.
Didnt say that. The post I quoted above was the first ive seen, of someone actually taking game evidence and saying Harris was better. I think ive asked the question "based on what" 6 times in this thread and no one would respond.
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The Auburn game was a set up for failure...believe what you want.
I dont think they set him up for failure, but i do think that was a poor spot to give him his first start.
Again, im all for Harris playing if that's what they want I just wanted someone to point out some evidence other than saying "He cant get worse" because yes it can.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:49 pm to Larry
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This "Harris is not going to get his shot/transfer" is so fricking awful.
Why does anyone think that?
Oh, I don't know. Maybe because no talented QB wants to waste 66% of the only remaining eligibility he will ever have to play college ball sitting on the bench.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:29 pm to emanresu
Bingo! Have an up vote sir!
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:33 pm to RedTigerRulz
Lsu "fans" are obsessed with wanting their players to transfer. I've never seen anything like it.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:43 pm to BeeFense5
I do not know if Harris will be better than AJ or not...but I do know this..
the more experience a QB gets the better he usually gets...so why not get him REAL experience. this year, when we are going nowhere
and why do our QBs struggle so much as Freshmen, when other schools thrive with Freshman QBs.. are we recruiting wrongly, developing wrongly ?????
I do not expect every Freshman QB to excel.. but we should with one now and then.
the more experience a QB gets the better he usually gets...so why not get him REAL experience. this year, when we are going nowhere
and why do our QBs struggle so much as Freshmen, when other schools thrive with Freshman QBs.. are we recruiting wrongly, developing wrongly ?????
I do not expect every Freshman QB to excel.. but we should with one now and then.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:50 pm to emanresu
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Oh, I don't know. Maybe because no talented QB wants to waste 66% of the only remaining eligibility he will ever have to play college ball sitting on the bench.
It's really simple. If Harris can't beat out Jennings next spring, then he should transfer. And, if he can't beat out Jennings, then I don't care if he transfers. Bring in the next crop of recruits....
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:50 pm to BobBoucher
My opinion of the QB situation is this. Harris has already lost his redshirt, we have 3 games left, including a bowl game. I don't see a downside in Harris playing significant time against 3 Power 5 teams to end the season.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:50 pm to rbdallas
Prepare for a buttload of lame azz excuses from the pumpers....when the reality is there is none.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:09 pm to lsuhunt555
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agree with most of what youre saying, im just trying to call out the people who are definitively saying that Harris will be better with no evidence to support that.
We don't know if the end result on the field will be any better right now, but anyone can see he is the better athlete, with the better arm. Why not see if he can be seasoned by some game experienced? I am not advocating for him to start, I would like to see him take 25% of the snaps and then maybe 40% in the final regular season game. However, I would be amazed if he does. Miles just doesn't do that and it is one of his this failings. He doesn't use games against scrubs, or blowouts to work on facets of the passing game. That type of stuff helps push a developing player a little further along. It would have helped Mett better than mop up duty where he just hands off over and over again.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:16 pm to lsuhunt555
I'll say this...can Harris possibly do worse than even AJ has really been? Yes of course he can. (e.g. Auburn).
But at this point I really think we need to look at the long-term...AJ has shown no improvement since coming in against Arkansas. The only thing he has really shown is that he is a hell of a competitor who can usually throw a nice deep ball. I think most people see AJ's ceiling as a backup QB, which is what he has shown his talent to be. Harris on the other hand is the QB with all the potential in the world.
We've seen what we can get from AJ, we've seen glimpses of Harris (including both sides of the spectrum Miss St/NMSU ---- Auburn). It would be prudent for the future of the program to get Harris some experience against Power 5 opponents now, while our season is effectively over (not "over" but we are out of the hunt in the SEC etc).
But at this point I really think we need to look at the long-term...AJ has shown no improvement since coming in against Arkansas. The only thing he has really shown is that he is a hell of a competitor who can usually throw a nice deep ball. I think most people see AJ's ceiling as a backup QB, which is what he has shown his talent to be. Harris on the other hand is the QB with all the potential in the world.
We've seen what we can get from AJ, we've seen glimpses of Harris (including both sides of the spectrum Miss St/NMSU ---- Auburn). It would be prudent for the future of the program to get Harris some experience against Power 5 opponents now, while our season is effectively over (not "over" but we are out of the hunt in the SEC etc).
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