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Obama could go out an a high note if he wanted
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:21 pm
Assuming R's take control of congress, Obama really does have a chance to be remembered as a decent president.
In my mind, he has two options:
1. Leave his pride at the door and realize that R's took congress for a reason. The people of the U.S. voted them there. He can actually realize that being the president doesn't always mean "my way or the highway" and work with R's to act on important issues.
2. Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
I believe people can change. Which option do ya'll think he'll take?
In my mind, he has two options:
1. Leave his pride at the door and realize that R's took congress for a reason. The people of the U.S. voted them there. He can actually realize that being the president doesn't always mean "my way or the highway" and work with R's to act on important issues.
2. Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
I believe people can change. Which option do ya'll think he'll take?
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:23 pm to UGATiger26
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Assuming R's take control of congress, Obama really does have a chance to be remembered as a decent president.
Wait until Presidential historians get a hold of his legacy, he'll be top 10.
LBJ was widely considered an abysmal failure during my childhood, and now he's borderline revered, despite being a horrific leader and a sociopath.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:36 pm to UGATiger26
not a chance, he is the most self absorbed POS President ever.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:46 pm to UGATiger26
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Which option do ya'll think he'll take?
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Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:49 pm to UGATiger26
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1. Leave his pride at the door
Zero chance of that happening IMO. When has he sold out himself or the Dems thus far? Never.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:50 pm to UGATiger26
quote:Think about this before responding. If he were a Republican, wouldn't you be saying that he was being tough and no nonsense against a do-nothing congress full of Democrats that are trying, at every turn, to prevent meaningful legislation from passing?
Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:05 pm to UGATiger26
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Obama could go out an a high note if he wanted
Only if he stood on Mariah Carey's head
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:26 pm to UGATiger26
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1. Leave his pride at the door and realize that R's took congress for a reason. The people of the U.S. voted them there. He can actually realize that being the president doesn't always mean "my way or the highway" and work with R's to act on important issues.
Will not happen.
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2. Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
Will likely happen.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:32 pm to UGATiger26
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Assuming R's take control of congress, Obama really does have a chance to be remembered as a decent president.
In my mind, he has two options:
1. Leave his pride at the door and realize that R's took congress for a reason. The people of the U.S. voted them there. He can actually realize that being the president doesn't always mean "my way or the highway" and work with R's to act on important issues.
2. Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
I believe people can change. Which option do ya'll think he'll take?
As I have posted elsewhere, I will be truly shocked (but pleasantly so) if he chooses #1.
1. He has shown no indication that he is willing to do so. He is not a "wheeler-dealer" type of president. He is a "pick wedge issues and run with it" type of president. Not saying one is better than another, since they both have pluses and minuses, it's not who he is.
2. You assume the repubs will want to work with him. They have no incentive to do so.
Pick an issue- I don't see a middle ground.
Immigration- too many opposed in the republican base (a shame imho, but it is what it is).
Tax reform? Yeah right. Obama won't move to stop inversions because it will be "helping the 1%ers"
Minimum wage? Maybe if the unemployment rate drops- but seriously doubt it. This is mostly a BS wedge issue.
Entitlement reform? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Actually passing a budget? I see a lot of standoffs and brinkmanship here.
Obamacare? Obama will veto a repeal and Repubs won't offer any fixes.
I just see a lot more of the same. Maybe less "Bush's fault" and more "republican congress's fault" ala the NIH ebola issue. So there is that.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:35 pm to UGATiger26
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Which option do ya'll think he'll take?
Whatever option is worst for our once great country that he is hell-bent on fundamentally transforming into a banana republic.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:40 pm to UGATiger26
I think his approval rating would skyrocket if he just resigned.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:46 pm to UGATiger26
Interesting post, but at the end of the day, Barack Hussein Obama is a committed Progressive idealogue. He is not willing to compromise on anything.
Anything.
Anything.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:53 pm to UGATiger26
2. Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:57 pm to UGATiger26
Sure. If he gets his balls cut off .
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:15 pm to UGATiger26
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1. Leave his pride at the door and realize that R's took congress for a reason. The people of the U.S. voted them there. He can actually realize that being the president doesn't always mean "my way or the highway" and work with R's to act on important issues.
this presumes that republicans want to do anything. If they send him reasonable stuff, he will sign it IMHO.
I think they don't want to do that since they would then have to give him credit. And they would rather rip their eyeballs out than to give him anything that remotely resembles praise.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:18 pm to UGATiger26
Obama has never and will never work with republicans in good faith. He's burned those bridges and will never repair them.
The Bushes and Clinton all had occasional support across the isle and were capable of working with people with whom they disagreed.
Obama's unwillingness or inability to compromise to achieve an important goal is what makes him a shitty leader and a terrible president.
The Bushes and Clinton all had occasional support across the isle and were capable of working with people with whom they disagreed.
Obama's unwillingness or inability to compromise to achieve an important goal is what makes him a shitty leader and a terrible president.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:22 pm to UGATiger26
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1. Leave his pride at the door and realize that R's took congress for a reason. The people of the U.S. voted them there. He can actually realize that being the president doesn't always mean "my way or the highway" and work with R's to act on important issues.
Uhhhh you do realize that Republicans got together before and after he was elected and collectively decided to be opposed to anything and everything the President was for right?
LINK
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:36 pm to UGATiger26
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2. Spend two years bitching and moaning like a petulant child about how congress is irresponsible and refusing to present bills that he is willing to sign.
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I believe people can change.
I do too, but almost 6 years of evidence and his voting record from the Senate tells me that he has no intention of changing.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 7:08 pm to UGATiger26
It's amazing how blind you guys are.
LINK the GOP has rejected every carrot Obama has extended.
Why do you think we have Obamacare in its present form? It's patterned after a 2006 bipartisan bill.
The stimulus. 28% of it were tax cuts.
The extension of the bush tax cuts.
He'll Obama finally backed Keystone and the are publicans filibustered that!
They even filibustered their own bill. LINK
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On the night of Barack Obama’s inauguration, a group of top GOP luminaries quietly gathered in a Washington steakhouse to lick their wounds and ultimately create the outline of a plan for how to deal with the incoming administration.
“The room was filled. It was a who’s who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen, or in the majority, who now wondered out loud whether they were in the permanent minority,” Frank Luntz, who organized the event, told FRONTLINE.
. Among them were Senate power brokers Jim DeMint, Jon Kyl and Tom Coburn, and conservative congressmen Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan.
After three hours of strategizing, they decided they needed to fight Obama on everything. The new president had no idea what the Republicans were planning.
Tonight’s film, Inside Obama’s Presidency, explores the behind-the-scenes story of his first four years. With inside accounts from his battles with his Republican opponents over health care and the economy to his dramatic expansion of targeted killings of enemies, FRONTLINE examines the president’s key decisions and the experiences that will inform his second term.
LINK the GOP has rejected every carrot Obama has extended.
Why do you think we have Obamacare in its present form? It's patterned after a 2006 bipartisan bill.
The stimulus. 28% of it were tax cuts.
The extension of the bush tax cuts.
He'll Obama finally backed Keystone and the are publicans filibustered that!
They even filibustered their own bill. LINK
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:52 pm to UGATiger26
people don't want one party's programs put in place. That's why midterm elections go to the opposition.
Also, did you act like this when Americans put D's in charge? I bet not.
Also, did you act like this when Americans put D's in charge? I bet not.
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