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Disputed 1972 Ole Miss game
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm
I've heard very different accounts of people who were there. A lot of people seemed to just think it was an exciting game and didn't notice anything controversial at all, but I've heard that others (even LSU fans) thought it was ridiculous or even humorous that LSU was able to get those three plays off. I was wondering if some of the older people had anything to add.
I read something odd though. This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.
I've also talked to people about the LSU-Auburn game in 2007. The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
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I read something odd though. This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.
I've also talked to people about the LSU-Auburn game in 2007. The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:55 pm to theknightswhosay
I will never forget that game..as a boy listening to the radio with my dad, I was on the floor praying for the result I got. 
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:08 pm to theknightswhosay
I was in the south endzone...
Yeah, I am that old...
Yeah, I am that old...
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:11 pm to theknightswhosay
My mom (Ole Miss fan) still bitches about that game.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:23 pm to theknightswhosay
Meh, sometimes the refs frick up the clock, it happens.
Probably happened way more back in the old days than today.
Probably happened way more back in the old days than today.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:30 pm to theknightswhosay
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This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left.
That is backwards. If there are no tenths on a clock, then the time would stay on 4 seconds until there were 3 seconds left. So, there could have been 3.1 seconds left with the clock showing 4 seconds.
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It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
The clock operator can start the clock late or early, and stop it late or early. In the case of the Auburn game, I'm sure if the pass was incomplete, the clock operator would have stopped it right away.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:33 pm to theknightswhosay
Was there in the south end zone east side with my dad, I was 15. What a late game comeback. Do not forget the passes were not in the air very long due to Bert's arm and the extremely short field.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:50 pm to theknightswhosay
some distortion, but here's an audio link to John Ferguson's radio call, of the game winning drive. Pretty cool hearing the horn go off, as Jones throws to Davis.
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lsu-ole-miss-72
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:12 pm to theknightswhosay
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC the year before (1971) in Jackson, LSU trailed 24-22 with about 8 seconds to play and threw a quick sideline pass to get into field-goal range. But despite the receiver going out of bounds, the clock ran out and the Tigers were not able to line up for a game-winning FG attempt.
Nobody talks about that, you only hear about the following year's game.
Nobody talks about that, you only hear about the following year's game.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:24 pm to theknightswhosay
I can tell you everyone sitting in our section was wondering how the clock didn't strike 12..... 
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:26 pm to theknightswhosay
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This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.
This is why basketball clocks go to 10ths near the end.
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The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.
If the refs are paying attention this should not be a problem at the very end of the game, esp. not now with instant replay.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:29 pm to theknightswhosay
"Entering Louisiana. Please set your clock back 4 seconds"
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:14 pm to theknightswhosay
Ever since that game, from time to time I kind of note in the back of my mind when plays of a similar sort only take 3s. It happens. I haven't kept a record of them but I think I can say it's not that rare.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:49 pm to theknightswhosay
Memo: For All Who Can Handle Trading Out Typical LSU FAN bullshite Mindset As Biased Lazy Disinterested Dunderhead... For That RARE Adult Football Confidence, Fair-minded & Coherent.
LSU vs. Ole Miss(1972): HERE IS THE TRUTH & REAL DEAL OF WHAT HAPPENED (EVEN LSU QB FESSED UP & ADMITTED THE OBVIOUS ABSURDITY BELOW)!
1.) "We Ran 2 Plays, In I Think 4 Seconds. It Could Be Done- Whether Or Not It Was Done Legally Or Not, Uh, Will Always Remain A Question. But The Fact Stands We Ran 2 Plays..."
BERT JONES
2.) “RUNNING THE CLOCK: HARD OR EASY?”
There was a great deal of discussion on the “Sports Animal” this p.m. about controversy with the clock late in the game throughout recorded history. It was a reasoned and rational discussion, nothing like what passes for intelligent debate and commentary in the mornings. The oh-so-fake dialogue between Mickey and Heather is getting tiresome.
The greatest last second timing controversy, just to be fair about it, happened Nov. 4, 1972, at LSU.
LSU ran 2 pass plays in the final 4 seconds against Ole Miss to win 17-16, causing a sign to be erected on the Mississippi side of the Mississippi-Louisiana border for more than a few years that read: “You are now entering Louisiana. Please set your watch back 4 seconds.”
No one on either side has forgotten that night. No official strode to the center of the field and said those magic words; “The previous play is under review.” There were no SEC observers huddled around a bank of monitors trying to discern what actually happened. No apology was forthcoming to the Ole Miss folks after the game.
The 1973 Ole Miss football guide, in its game summary section, lists the game score as “Mississippi 16, LSU 10 + 7.”
It was a great moment, long before replay was even thought about. The game was also not televised. There were no chat boards, so all Ole Miss fans could do was talk about the call over breakfast at the local diner or fire off letters to the majors news media in the state.
Imagine that, a time an SEC game, between two old rivals, was not on somebody’s television.
There wasn’t even a “red hat” on the field to monitor the pace of the game and insert commercials where appropriate.
John Ferguson did, however, do an excellent job with the radio play-by-play on WWL in New Orleans.
It does seem so long ago.
V Jr. 2019
LSU vs. Ole Miss(1972): HERE IS THE TRUTH & REAL DEAL OF WHAT HAPPENED (EVEN LSU QB FESSED UP & ADMITTED THE OBVIOUS ABSURDITY BELOW)!
1.) "We Ran 2 Plays, In I Think 4 Seconds. It Could Be Done- Whether Or Not It Was Done Legally Or Not, Uh, Will Always Remain A Question. But The Fact Stands We Ran 2 Plays..."
BERT JONES
2.) “RUNNING THE CLOCK: HARD OR EASY?”
There was a great deal of discussion on the “Sports Animal” this p.m. about controversy with the clock late in the game throughout recorded history. It was a reasoned and rational discussion, nothing like what passes for intelligent debate and commentary in the mornings. The oh-so-fake dialogue between Mickey and Heather is getting tiresome.
The greatest last second timing controversy, just to be fair about it, happened Nov. 4, 1972, at LSU.
LSU ran 2 pass plays in the final 4 seconds against Ole Miss to win 17-16, causing a sign to be erected on the Mississippi side of the Mississippi-Louisiana border for more than a few years that read: “You are now entering Louisiana. Please set your watch back 4 seconds.”
No one on either side has forgotten that night. No official strode to the center of the field and said those magic words; “The previous play is under review.” There were no SEC observers huddled around a bank of monitors trying to discern what actually happened. No apology was forthcoming to the Ole Miss folks after the game.
The 1973 Ole Miss football guide, in its game summary section, lists the game score as “Mississippi 16, LSU 10 + 7.”
It was a great moment, long before replay was even thought about. The game was also not televised. There were no chat boards, so all Ole Miss fans could do was talk about the call over breakfast at the local diner or fire off letters to the majors news media in the state.
Imagine that, a time an SEC game, between two old rivals, was not on somebody’s television.
There wasn’t even a “red hat” on the field to monitor the pace of the game and insert commercials where appropriate.
John Ferguson did, however, do an excellent job with the radio play-by-play on WWL in New Orleans.
It does seem so long ago.
V Jr. 2019
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